• BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Third party, unironically.

    inb4 helping the other side/first-past/throwing votes/electoral college. Gotta show em this is what happens when they are ignored.

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      9 months ago

      I totally agree. It will hurt, but this lesser-evil bullshit needs to end.

      Blame everyone who votes for ‘moderate’ democrats. Not the people who refuse to ‘fall in line.’

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        9 months ago

        Yep. People wanna act like votes are deserved. Votes are earned and if the party hasnt shown they earn them they dont get them. Full stop.

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          9 months ago

          Maybe instead of a candidate that gives you everything you want, a candidate that gives you most of what you want and is viable is a more reasonable expectation.

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        9 months ago

        The lies people who vote third party tell themselves to justify their actions are astounding. You know the game, you know the rules and you know the consequences but still you do the wrong thing and pat yourself on the back and think yourself some sort of hero.

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        9 months ago

        Moderate Democrat isn’t a bad word, and a more centrist candidate implies broad support. It’s easy to forget that on the fediverse, where the Overton window is way left of normal society.

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          9 months ago

          No, it wholeheartedly is.

          There is no liberal party in the US. Only conservative, and slightly less-conservative.

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            It’s funny how the us has redefined liberalism to mean something else, because both parties generally could be considered liberal, perhaps one more liberal and one slightly less:

            Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law. Liberals espouse various views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion, constitutional government and privacy rights. Liberalism is frequently cited as the dominant ideology of modern history.

            I suspect you mean social or new deal liberalism, which defines Democrats but not Republicans.

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              9 months ago

              You are correct.

              I don’t like the word liberal nor using it. Unfortunately, it has come to mean a point between conservatives and their dissenters.

              Democrats, liberal, leftist, none of these really apply to what I am really talking about.

              I think Progressive is the best, most accurate term. Other nations have parties that are more “Progressive” than “Liberal.”

              It’s another reason why I’m a huge fan of talking specifics, not generalities.

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        9 months ago

        It will hurt, but this lesser-evil bullshit needs to end.

        Lmao if your plan works your life is going to get so much worse and I just don’t understand how you see that as a win

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      9 months ago

      inb4 helping the other side/first-past/throwing votes/electoral college

      So you know all the reasons why what you choose to do is wrong but do it anyway?

      Gotta show em this is what happens when they are ignored.

      You already admitted that’s not what you are actually accomplishing but I guess lying to yourself makes you feel better.

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          9 months ago

          If voting Democrat isn’t going to change anything, voting third party is definitely not going to change anything. Might as well make the higher percentage play, which is voting Democrat.

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            Sure. Keep up the defeatism. It’s what those in power want. This is probably the only American thing I will never understand.

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              The only ones peddling defeatism here are the ones advocating for the greater evil because the aren’t getting everything they want.