I’m talking about the fight/fuck/dominate hormones. Testosterone, estrogen. The reason why putting a pretty girl in an advertisement works so well. And it might explain a lot of aggression too.

Take them out of the equation and that’s 99% of politics, advertising and popular music gone.

I guess that needed to be clearer.

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    Given that hormones control most of the processes occurring in our bodies, there wouldn’t be a society as there wouldn’t be any individuals

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    You body begins to die a painful but probably mercifully quick death. Hormones are vital to your bodies continual survival and even if you targeted specific ones, you’d just be creating problems for yourself. Elimated dopamine? Congrats you’ve given yourself ADHD and a host of other personality problems. Melotonin? Oops no more sleep for you, enjoy your sudden weight gain and compromised immune system. We don’t take hormones, we are hormones.

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    I’m assuming you don’t mean people abusing steroids, but hormones, period (no pun intended), because you say they’re used by everybody.

    So, okay. I’m a biologist and I’m not sure how to answer this question except to say that we wouldn’t exist. By “we” I pretty much mean life on earth as we know it.

    Let’s start with Wikipedia:

    A hormone (from the Greek participle ὁρμῶν, “setting in motion”) is a class of signaling molecules in multicellular organisms that are sent to distant organs by complex biological processes to regulate physiology and behavior.[1] Hormones are required for the correct development of animals, plants and fungi.

    A hormone is not a drug.

    A drug is any chemical substance that when consumed causes a change in an organism’s physiology, including its psychology, if applicable.[1][2][vague] Drugs are typically distinguished from food and other substances that provide nutritional support

    You can take hormones as drugs, but drugs are things that are consumed. Hormones produced within your body are part of and necessary to maintaining your life from before you are a you until the day you die. They regulate your metabolism. They’re directly responsible for keeping your body alive and in sync with the environment. They’re everywhere - animals, plants, and fungi.

    So, no, please don’t get rid of hormones. We’re using them.

    Now, diseases and disorders caused by hormonal dysfunction are a different story. Those, hopefully, can be treated medically or with therapy. That’s a different question, though.

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    Hormones is too broad a word to use without being more specific. ‘Taken by everybody’ is a bit broad and inaccurate. Personally I have to inject a very powerful hormone several times a day to avoid dying, which most people produce naturally in sufficient quantities (insulin). I assume you’re talking about exogenous testosterone and I agree, people without a medical need for this should not have access to it.

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      Bzzzt. We’d find a way to breed without hormones pushing us around. Look at science, engineering, flower gardening. Plenty of ambition there without chemical influence.

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        You… You know that hormones naturally occur in the body right? You know that without hormones, no one would grow ever? Hormones regulate eating, sleep, and more. You know this, right?

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          I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume OP is only referring to sex hormones, though this could have been made clearer in the question…

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          You know that hormones naturally occur in the body…

          These are the hormones to which I referred in the op. I thought that was clear.

          Ok, maybe “taking” wasn’t the right term but I couldn’t think of better.

          I specifically refer to the big famous mind-altering ones. Testosterone. Estrogen.

          The fight-fuck hormones.

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          Skinny kids who couldn’t make it on the football field trying to eke out supremacy in a different arena? Ok, that’s a fair argument.

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      That applies to Testosterone / Estrogen, yes. But keep in mind that there are a lot of non-sexual hormones as well. Insulin and Adrenaline for example are also hormones, and if a body stops producing enough insulin, you can’t exactly claim that “not a lot changes”.

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        Well Insulin for an example doesn’t change behavior which is what OP primarily asked about. But it certainly would cause issues if it was gone.

        Adrenaline’s function is primarily pain numbing agent with the additional effect of increasing resource flow to your muscles.

        Honestly 99% of hormones don’t affect behavior but rather so our physical biological activity. When I say “Not a lot” I mean mentally. Physically you’d fucking die tho lmao

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      Pre-puberty I was less aggressive and did not look twice at girls.

      That’s 99% of politics and advertising down the crapper right there.

      I’d call that a pretty big difference.