TL;DR: The current Mastodon-signup is only removing the confusion of users on first glance, because it either hides the server-choice altogether, or leaves them with a choice that is impossible to make at this point of their Mastodon-journey. Instead, it should introduce them to decentrality on a lower scale, with a handful of handpicked servers to choose from, such that the decision makes sense to them and shows them the merits and fun of the concept instead of scaring them away. Ideal would be to give them a sense of agency. Then, chances are higher that they consider migrating again in the future and eventually internalize it as a permanent option of the digital world.

  • MudMan@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    I’ve been saying this from the go: users don’t need to know decentralization even exists until AFTER they are signed up.

    What Mastodon needs is a proper migration flow that moves old posts and remote follows so users can decide if they want a new instance after they spend some time in the system and start to understand how it works. Any mention of decentralization on signup is a churn point, because decentralization doesn’t add any features to posting and reading posts. From a UX perspective, decentralization isn’t a feature.

    Things are about to get messier once the big decision coming in becomes “do you want to see Threads or nah?”, which then actively requires thinking about a competing social media platform on the way into this one.

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      11 months ago

      Not only decentralization is not a feature – it’s a burden. “Normal” users (read: non nerds like 99% of us here) couldn’t care less about which server they should sign up to.

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        11 months ago

        Tbh then just tell em to sign up for mastodon.social, or a specific instance you know they’d like since you know them fairly well, problem solved. They can migrate later if they want anyway, fuck it, they’ll be fine. It’s a masto acct not a limb amputation, like hair so to speak “it’ll grow back.”

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        9 months ago

        And if it such a central feature

        It’s not. It’s an important feature. It’s not a central feature.

        That’s like saying two factor authentication is a central feature of Twitter. It’s important, yes, but it’s not central.

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        11 months ago

        That kind of attitude leads to being scammed with popups and robbed of all your savings.

        Go back to your VCR, Granma.

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      11 months ago

      Though if decentralization were to be hidden, it’d be a good idea to cycle through lots of well established general instances for user signups under the hood. The vast majority of people are just going to choose the default options, and if it’s all going to funnel into mastodon.social, that’s a lot of centralization of users. Ideally no single server lords over all the others in terms of user count, because that gives them lots of power other instances may feel compelled to abide by. Having power spread out across many different people helps keep things in check, at the very least making large or drastic decisions more of a round table affair.

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    11 months ago

    So… Am I missing something or are you suggesting an oligopoly, elected by a monopoly?

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    11 months ago

    There’s still nothing like awesome lemmy instances that shows a server’s blocking and blocked by count?

    That’s the biggest hurdle for me, there’s no guarantee who you want to follow won’t be blocked by your or their BOFH.

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    11 months ago

    Here’s another way: stop referring to everything “Twitter-like” as Mastodon. Stop referring to everything “Reddit-like” as Lemmy. Those are both client platforms through which one can access ActivityPub content.

    Conflating the platform with the provider with the protocol with the content is what’s confusing people.

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        11 months ago

        … without mentioning Twitter.

        That seems like a pretty arbitrary restriction. At this point, a basic knowledge of “what Twitter is like” is a pretty general-knowledge thing.

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          11 months ago

          It is a general knowledge thing, but that means nothing if you don’t actually reference it.

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      11 months ago

      Are you saying to start calling all of it ActivityPub? In which case, I would think that’d be extra confusing since lemmy and mastodon don’t cross-interface very well and you really need one client for each type.

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    11 months ago

    Bad example, given that Hogwarts-house-in-bio is a reliable transphobic dog whistle, and transphobia is very much unacceptable in the fediverse.