This is an interview with Julian Lennon from March 18th 1999 with Dini Petty. He speaks of his new album, his TRUE feelings of Yoko Ono, Sean Lennon, Paul M...
There’s a whole lot of fucked up with everyone involved. I have experiance with a family with a dead famous dude and there’s fucked up shit going on there too. Apperently, it’s quite common.
It’s common in non celebrity families as well. When someone dies it’s like everyone decides to be as shitty as possible to the ones who were closest to the deceased.
When my mom died her family broke into my house and took everything. My dad was left with nothing to remember her by. It was horrible. These were the same people who refused to talk to her for months prior to her death. Then they had the audacity to blame my father and I for her death. Like motherfuckers if you would have answered her calls at least once you’d know she was in severe physical pain when she died. It had nothing to do with us.
It’s not talked about a lot, but neuropathy kills all the time.
Fuck dude, I’m sorry for your loss and the shitty aftermath you had to deal with when you were grieving. I hope you and your father have found peace and happiness and that you don’t have contact with those vultures at all anymore.
They don’t even have to be dead yet for this shit to happen.
We have a relative in a home in serious cognitive decline. We kept their stuff with his sibling. Friends are asking ‘what about the valuable X/Y he had’, ‘does he have much money in the bank?’ etc. Parasites seem to come out of the woodwork at these times. It’s disgraceful.
Yeah, the older I get, I’m kinda glad that nobody in my family has much.
When my mom’s mom passed, she left everything to my mom (and like a dollar each to her two sisters), but honestly, it wasn’t much at all. A mess of debt and paperwork to sort out and a house in terrible shape. Her sisters were hurt at first but realized they weren’t missing out, and they still have a decent relationship, especially after my mom told them that she was willing to talk about sharing/giving them anything they wanted.
Now, years later, my parents (and my sister and I, and with help from pros) totally gutted and renovated the house and my parents just sold it earlier this year. My mom has said repeatedly that she wants to give her sisters as well as my sister and I some of the money from the house, but honestly I don’t really care about the money at all. If I get anything I’ll probably save it toward a down payment on a house of my own someday, but if I never see a dime, it’s no big deal.
On the other side, when my dad’s dad passed, he was similarly laid back about things, but his sister got really bold and rude about claiming lots and lots of stuff, and it only got worse when my grandma moved out of her house into assisted living.
Now that house is almost ready to sell as well, and she’s already asking about her share (of the house my parents did everything with). She’s even hoarded the lions share of housewares, appliances, etc. too, which are sitting in boxes in her storage unit, even as my sister and I both were buying those same things over the past several years as we established our own homes.
Really, the only things I have from the house are two pieces of furniture (which my aunt wanted but wouldn’t fit in her storage unit), one small set of glass dishes, some mixing bowls, and my grandpap’s old favorite coffee mug. I think of him every time I use it, and that’s all that really matters to me.
Nah it’s just people, doesn’t matter if they’re famous. I used to work in a law office and the family and estate cases were the absolute worst. Some people just turn into vile cretins when someone dies. Give me a good old criminal case any day over that nonsense.
Out of curiosity, how enforceable is a “if anyone contests this will legally, their portion becomes 0 and what would have been theirs is divided up among the others who haven’t contested it” clause?
I’d have to look it up, ianal but I don’t think that’s a thing where I live. I personally have not seen any weird punishment like that for contesting a will.
Wild. I never knew John rode the horse. That they were able to clean up for their kid is fairy admirable. I assume that means they dabbled more than they went full out? Cause I’m fascinated by heroin addiction and what it does to people in a sort of morbid way (listened to a lot of music by heroin addicts over the years).
If you wanna transfer these to a dedicated AMA thread (if you do, please reply with a link), please feel free.
How did you get there? I met someone for whom heroin was the first drug they tried. Hadn’t even smoked pot. Did you have a gateway drug or dive right in? If gateway, how did that progress?
How long did you use? How did it affect your ability to participate in society? How did it affect your relationships with friends and family?
What caused you to turn things around and what was that experience like? How long did it take? How many attempts were necessary?
What do you want to say about is that I haven’t asked?
Agreed.
I think you have to be a certain kind of narcissistic/attention-seeking to be famous at all and I think that humans in general are greedy. Which all translates to, celebrities are likely more fucked up than we think and their family dynamics probably match.
There’s a whole lot of fucked up with everyone involved. I have experiance with a family with a dead famous dude and there’s fucked up shit going on there too. Apperently, it’s quite common.
It’s common in non celebrity families as well. When someone dies it’s like everyone decides to be as shitty as possible to the ones who were closest to the deceased.
When my mom died her family broke into my house and took everything. My dad was left with nothing to remember her by. It was horrible. These were the same people who refused to talk to her for months prior to her death. Then they had the audacity to blame my father and I for her death. Like motherfuckers if you would have answered her calls at least once you’d know she was in severe physical pain when she died. It had nothing to do with us.
It’s not talked about a lot, but neuropathy kills all the time.
Fuck dude, I’m sorry for your loss and the shitty aftermath you had to deal with when you were grieving. I hope you and your father have found peace and happiness and that you don’t have contact with those vultures at all anymore.
They don’t even have to be dead yet for this shit to happen.
We have a relative in a home in serious cognitive decline. We kept their stuff with his sibling. Friends are asking ‘what about the valuable X/Y he had’, ‘does he have much money in the bank?’ etc. Parasites seem to come out of the woodwork at these times. It’s disgraceful.
Yeah, the older I get, I’m kinda glad that nobody in my family has much.
When my mom’s mom passed, she left everything to my mom (and like a dollar each to her two sisters), but honestly, it wasn’t much at all. A mess of debt and paperwork to sort out and a house in terrible shape. Her sisters were hurt at first but realized they weren’t missing out, and they still have a decent relationship, especially after my mom told them that she was willing to talk about sharing/giving them anything they wanted.
Now, years later, my parents (and my sister and I, and with help from pros) totally gutted and renovated the house and my parents just sold it earlier this year. My mom has said repeatedly that she wants to give her sisters as well as my sister and I some of the money from the house, but honestly I don’t really care about the money at all. If I get anything I’ll probably save it toward a down payment on a house of my own someday, but if I never see a dime, it’s no big deal.
On the other side, when my dad’s dad passed, he was similarly laid back about things, but his sister got really bold and rude about claiming lots and lots of stuff, and it only got worse when my grandma moved out of her house into assisted living.
Now that house is almost ready to sell as well, and she’s already asking about her share (of the house my parents did everything with). She’s even hoarded the lions share of housewares, appliances, etc. too, which are sitting in boxes in her storage unit, even as my sister and I both were buying those same things over the past several years as we established our own homes.
Really, the only things I have from the house are two pieces of furniture (which my aunt wanted but wouldn’t fit in her storage unit), one small set of glass dishes, some mixing bowls, and my grandpap’s old favorite coffee mug. I think of him every time I use it, and that’s all that really matters to me.
Nah it’s just people, doesn’t matter if they’re famous. I used to work in a law office and the family and estate cases were the absolute worst. Some people just turn into vile cretins when someone dies. Give me a good old criminal case any day over that nonsense.
Out of curiosity, how enforceable is a “if anyone contests this will legally, their portion becomes 0 and what would have been theirs is divided up among the others who haven’t contested it” clause?
I’d have to look it up, ianal but I don’t think that’s a thing where I live. I personally have not seen any weird punishment like that for contesting a will.
Fame is not healthy for humans. It makes them do weird, fucked up shit.
Now add former heroin addicts to the equation.
Wait, who was hooked on smack? Please say it was Yoko.
John and Yoko. They quit when their son was born.
Wild. I never knew John rode the horse. That they were able to clean up for their kid is fairy admirable. I assume that means they dabbled more than they went full out? Cause I’m fascinated by heroin addiction and what it does to people in a sort of morbid way (listened to a lot of music by heroin addicts over the years).
Check into John’s “lost years” Yoko kicked him out and he went on a years long bender with Harry Neilsen among others.
A friend recently made me aware of this artist and his relation to the Beatles. That he was a smack head with Lennon wasn’t mentioned. Wild. Thanks.
He wasn’t a “smack head” with Lennon, Lennon was on heroin and quit it many years before that.
It was alcohol and coke Neilsson and Lennon did. Lots and lots of it.
Hi, former heroin addict here. AMA!
Wow, yes, please!
If you wanna transfer these to a dedicated AMA thread (if you do, please reply with a link), please feel free.
How did you get there? I met someone for whom heroin was the first drug they tried. Hadn’t even smoked pot. Did you have a gateway drug or dive right in? If gateway, how did that progress?
How long did you use? How did it affect your ability to participate in society? How did it affect your relationships with friends and family?
What caused you to turn things around and what was that experience like? How long did it take? How many attempts were necessary?
What do you want to say about is that I haven’t asked?
Gonna take me a bit but I’ll write up as good of a response as I can. I got clean in 2014 and my life is a zillion times better.
He wrote Cold Turkey to describe his own experiences.
Agreed. I think you have to be a certain kind of narcissistic/attention-seeking to be famous at all and I think that humans in general are greedy. Which all translates to, celebrities are likely more fucked up than we think and their family dynamics probably match.