• @merthyr1831@lemmy.world
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    278 months ago

    If Israel wanted to end this they could. They’d get their hostages back and they’d get to mourn their dead.

    Instead they immediately moved to starve millions of people to spite, what Wikipedia claims is (ie. a likely exaggerated) 20,000 Hamas members, of which Israel can only count one to be officially killed by their actions so far.

    They’re now talking of a “final solution” for the “palestine problem”. Half are already homeless, trapped beside the border crossings that israel bombs if not to their liking. How long until Israel is either allowed to enact their “final solution” or instigates a regional conflict between countries trying to prevent that?

    • @rdri@lemmy.world
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      -18 months ago

      Hamas could end the suffering if they cared about Palestinians, by surrendering.

      • @merthyr1831@lemmy.world
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        28 months ago

        Hope the millions who will die in the following days make you feel fulfilled that you chose this mindset. History will not absolve you.

        • @rdri@lemmy.world
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          08 months ago

          History should have teached Palestinians a lesson or two about aggression and terrorism. They should have understood they will only hurt themselves with those.

    • @blewit@lemm.ee
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      -328 months ago

      This is so fucking moronic is makes my head hurt. Simple question: why? Why do you in your brain think that Israel wants to do this? To what end? For what benefit to israel? What’s the motivation?

      • @ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world
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        128 months ago

        Real estate. Gaza is full of prime beachfront property. What exactly do you think the object of ethnic cleansing is?

        • @blewit@lemm.ee
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          -168 months ago

          That’s so fucking stupid. Israel is mostly beachfront. This is 14 miles of beach. If you honestly believe this, I really shouldn’t waste time replying.

          But … look. Israel unilaterally left Gaza - uprooted Israeli settlements - took out all the army. Left. No army. No Israelis. No agreement either. Palestinian Authority was ruling Gaza at the time, so there was hope they’d self govern and build a better life for themselves - free of Israelis and IDF. You know what they did? They had the one and only election in the last 18 years and put Hamas in power. Hamas started shooting rockets at the Israeli towns surrounding Gaza in Israel. This has been escalating until the massacre 2 weeks ago.

          Israel doesn’t want or need the land. Israel wants and needs peace. Go spend some time educating yourself.

          • @ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world
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            88 months ago

            You asked why and I gave you the answer in the simplest terms possible. You educate yourself. European colonizers have spent the last 500 years destroying people around the world. We have an idea of what this shit looks like by now.

            • Bezerker03
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              -88 months ago

              Except Israelis are not European colonizers. They’ve been there as long as the Arabs and many Muslim recognize that.

          • @superguy@lemm.ee
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            68 months ago

            That’s so fucking stupid.

            The more I’m on the internet, the more I notice comments that start off like this are usually wrong and the poster is insecure.

            Your arguments should be able to stand on their own merits. Insulting as though you’re already correct just makes you look weak and unsure of yourself.

            As you get older, this becomes clearer.

              • @ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world
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                28 months ago

                Excuse me? The dude asked a question, I answered it and my reward was to be insulted multiple times. That mother fucker doesn’t deserve a pot to piss in.

        • @blewit@lemm.ee
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          -158 months ago

          You didn’t answer my question.

          You linked to an opinion piece. So, not your opinion, some else’s? Nice critical thinking.

          And you are aware there is now a national unity government in place. Regardless of what Netanyahu may or may not want, this is a coalition government that is making decisions.

          • @rambaroo@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            Dude Israel is run by religious extremists. If they gave a fuck about peace they wouldn’t have sabotaged every attempt at a peace deal with Palestine.

            If they didn’t want to wipe out Palestinians they wouldn’t support and protect illegal settlers.

            The motivation of right wing Israelis has been clear from the very beginning. They believe that land belongs to one religious group only and they won’t stop until that belief is fully realized.

      • @superguy@lemm.ee
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        98 months ago

        This is so fucking moronic is makes my head hurt.

        The more I’m on the internet, the more I notice comments that start off like this are usually wrong and the poster is insecure.

        • @blewit@lemm.ee
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          -198 months ago

          Bahahahaa. Are you fucking serious?! Have you looked at the map?! There is a whole Negev desert right there! Bahahhahahaa. You’re a fucking moron.

          • @Nudding@lemmy.world
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            58 months ago

            A lot of ha’s in a thread underneath a picture of a bunch of dead kids. Maybe tone it down chucklefuck, simp for israel in a meme thread.

            • @blewit@lemm.ee
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              -28 months ago

              Not relevant. Was laughing at the absurdity of the comment that Israel is after beachfront property. I see you have a problem with analyzing simple facts. Explains a lot.

      • @negativeyoda@lemmy.world
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        58 months ago

        To drive Palestinians further off the small amount of land allotted to them?

        Same shit they’ve been doing with their settlements, but at a quicker pace this time.

        Best be quiet when adults are speaking

        • @blewit@lemm.ee
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          -28 months ago

          Didn’t answer the question: why? If Israel unilaterally exited Gaza in 2005, and uprooted all Israeli settlements and relocated them in Israel, why would you jump to the conclusion that Israel wants the land? The simple explanation, supported by facts, is that Hamas has been terrorizing the communities around Gaza inside Israel with missiles and rockets for 18 years, and has escalated to the incursion into Israel and slaughter of men, women, children, babies, and in at least one instance a fetus, kidnapped civilians, and are holding them hostage in a vast network of an underground city that was built to house the terrorists rather than build up an infrastructure for the Palestinian people to live and prosper. Now Israel is waging a war on Hamas. Beachfront property?! That’s the explanation. It’s ignoring facts and you, my friend, are a victim of propaganda.