• Ghostalmedia
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    20710 months ago

    Yeah, but he was stripped of all of his power. Wagner group is being rolled into the state military. The opportunity for Wagner to push back and or give Putin the boot has passed.

    And, this dude was also an evil corrupt piece of shit. If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.

    • Guy Dudeman
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      12010 months ago

      He was a straight-up Neo-Nazi and named the group after Hitler’s favorite composer. So yeah, he would have been infinitely worse than Putin… and that’s saying something.

        • OctopusKurwa
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          3810 months ago

          Yeah but a guy with a Stalin pfp told me Ukrainians are the real Nazis /s

        • @Supervisor194@lemmy.world
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          2610 months ago

          This baffles me. That anyone would idolize Nazism is baffling, but particularly Russians. I mean does nobody remember Stalingrad?

          • @suction@lemmy.world
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            10 months ago

            Anything you hear from Russia, you can just as well forget, it’s nothing but propaganda, lies, spin, and disinformation. They use Nazi guys like Wagner to fight what they call “Nazis” in Ukraine. It’s the “we fake it so hard that people couldn’t believe it someone would lie that bad” tactic. Never engage with Russia / Russians who aren’t publicly opposed to Putin and the status quo. You can only waste time.

      • Meldroc
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        10 months ago

        Yep Prigozhin was a monster. My only regret is that he and Putin didn’t die together with their hands around each other’s throats. And in other news, I think I’ll have tacos for lunch from my favorite local hole-in-the-wall…

        • @Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml
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          610 months ago

          When the short insurrection by Wagner was going on, I had hoped so much that Prigo and Putin somehow annihilate each other, or at least the hardliners in military and mercenaries perish in infighting. Sadly, all we got was confusion on that day.

          At least if Prigo’s death now ends up being confirmed, there won’t be that much confusion on why it happened, only some details will remain unclear.

        • @Bell@lemmy.world
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          110 months ago

          My only regret is that he and Putin didn’t die together with their hands around each other’s throats naked.

    • @iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Wagners are straight up fleeing into neighboring countries and Africa. They must have read the history books about what happens when one warlord assimilates another’s forces (they kill them quietly and easily now that they’re disarmed).

    • @Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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      1510 months ago

      Yup.

      A couple months ago? There would be an argument that he could do more good than bad.

      Yesterday? He was a powerless nazi thug

      Today? Maybe he is in exile. Maybe he is a charred corpse on the ground. Either way, one less nazi.

      • Ghostalmedia
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        1410 months ago

        Seems like most reasonable folks didn’t think he’d reform Russia. The only “good” he’d cause would be unrest that would force Russia to pull out of invading their democratic neighbors.

        • @Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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          310 months ago

          I don’t think anyone expected a reform.

          But it would have been a comparatively bloodless coup by a powerful military figure that would likely have ended the current war in Ukraine. As opposed to the likely outcomes of

          1. putin finally loses it and hits the red button (which is actually a lot harder in russia, to my understanding, but is still a threat)
          2. Some less powerful individual(s) attempt a coup and we end up with warlords vying for control of russia’s nuclear arsenal

          Like, there is no good outcome of this. But prigozhin probably would have been the lesser of the evils as it would start another cycle of russia preparing for war (and ravaging The Global South but… nobody cares about them) and allowing The West to try and prop up a more palatable person to take control in a future coup.

    • @bobman@unilem.org
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      210 months ago

      If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.

      He would at least cause a schism between the putin fanatics and everyone else.