The stance puts Kennedy — who’s mounting long shot bid to unseat President Joe Biden as the Democratic standard bearer in 2024 — out of step with most of his party.

  • halfempty
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    RFKJ is not a Democrat. His funding is all from MAGA billionaire Trumpers. His media presence is all on far-right sources. His message is conspiratorial Q-anon nonsense. Now he is lockstep with Republican anti-abortion policy. His whole purpose is to undermine any legitimate Democratic party candidacy.

    • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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      A “3 month ban” is moderate compared to what the Republican, and his own, views on abortion are. For his crowd this is basically saying “I’m okay with murder before 3 months,” which exposes the political stunt this is.

      This is basically the Scandinavian model though, over time abortions become more risky and serious a procedure, first trimester is the common “no questions asked” window for countries who have legal abortions. RFK Jr doesn’t actually agree with this, he’s been committed to making abortion illegal in any window since he started his news org.

    • @giantofthenorth@lemmy.world
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      You act like they’re going to put forth any legitimate dnc candidate. It’s just Biden cause "oh ho hum he won against trump once so it’ll happen again!!*

      • @rho_@lemmy.world
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        Yes. People didnt vote for Biden in 2020, they voted against Trump. If the matchup in 2024 is the same, the outcome will be similar.

        • @dx1@lemmy.world
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          Man is this electoral system a disaster. “Voting against ___” is just “literally anyone else, as long as they’re not that awful”.

          Imagine if we could just vote on bills.

        • @giantofthenorth@lemmy.world
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          Yeah we’re in a crisis. We need an actual leader though. We can’t just stick to yet another geriatric old man, Biden might win again but he’ll be breaking the promise of only going for 4 years and will be going against 70% of the parties wishes for him to not run again.

        • @kava@lemmy.world
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          I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Perception of the economy more or less decides elections, and that burned Trump heavily with the COVID chaos like supply chain shortages.

          Biden isn’t looking too much better, especially with record inflation and people struggling to afford living costs.

          Biden vs Trump rematch I think is dangerously close to tipping towards Trump.

  • Halafax
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    He’s being bankrolled by a republican donor. I have no idea who this guy is appeals to.

    • Drusas
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      Republicans are hoping his name will split the Democratic vote.

      • Nougat
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        Republicans think that Democratic voters are as stupid as Republican voters.

        • RiikkaTheIcePrincess
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          I hope they’re wrong. They’re wrong, right? … :-\

          Also, how is a Republican running as a Democrat? Is it just me thinking there’s a glaring flaw in the US’s political mechanics? Y’know, just the one. Nothing else wrong there. …Other than seemingly literally everything, with exactly zero hope of any meaningful change no matter what goes wrong nor how wrong it goes. sigh

        • @FormerlyChucks@lemmy.world
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          Because they are. There’s no difference between the two parties because neither makes the rules. The absolute state of burgers ffs it’s no wonder we’re turning into a shit hole

          • Flying Squid
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            How can you look at the last 2 years vs. the 4 before that and claim the parties are the same?

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              When someone’s head is that far up their own ass, the view is the same no matter where they look.

            • @FormerlyChucks@lemmy.world
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              You’re intentionally misconstruing my statement. They’re the same in that neither runs the country; plutocrats run the country. And if you don’t understand this simple, fundamental truth, your mind will forever be enslaved.

            • @aidan@lemmy.worldM
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              Basically are in terms of quality of life for nearly all Americans. At least with Biden and Trump- some other candidates would likely be different.

              • Flying Squid
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                How many Americans know someone who died from COVID or is suffering from long COVID (or are themselves)? Because Trump is responsible for a hell of a lot of that. Biden is not.

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        With this announcement on his stance on abortion, I think that idea is out the window.

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            Henry Cuellar’s success in his district in the deep south of Texas isn’t indicative of anything at all on a national level.

                • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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                  It’s so nice that the national party has to step in to save us from ourselves. Otherwise we might elect a progressive instead of the anti-choice candidate they prefer.

              • @Jonna@lemmy.world
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                Down voters apparently aren’t aware that the national Democratic party will back an anti choice candidate in order to prevent a progressive from taking the seat.

    • hihusio
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      I saw a rare “kennedy 2024” bumper stick out in the desert. the jeep also had an infowars sticker and a large “pure blooded” window decal. he appeals to the disinformed conspiracy brained moron demographic

      • Flying Squid
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        The world is so insane now that I don’t know if they meant ‘pure blooded’ because they’re a racist or ‘pure blooded’ because they’re an anti-vaxxer or both.

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            The assumption that damage to property implies potential murder says a lot about you.

            • @aidan@lemmy.worldM
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              Arson often leads to deaths- whether they were intended or not. Fires aren’t exactly know for being easy to stop spreading in a lot of areas.

    • @JaymesRS@midwest.social
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      Disillusioned “open minded” republicans like my brother for one. He was telling me that Dems should run him to appeal to anti-Trump Republicans to prevent Trump from winning. He’s a pretty smart guy who somehow got convinced that JAQing off is a good basis for philosophical thought and denies that he has any firm beliefs and is open to anything that he thinks sounds convincing.

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        denies that he has any firm beliefs and is open to anything

        That’s not the humblebrag he thinks it is; he’s saying he has no character. People who stand for nothing will fall for anything.

        • @JaymesRS@midwest.social
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          My guess is that he says it just to keep his personal beliefs from being assailable and being challenged. He can ask questions of others to try and make points and insulate himself. 

    • @SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world
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      No Dem is talking about him. He is always featured on right wing shows. He is so obviously a plant it’s kind of funny.

      I hope he just siphones Republican and “Libertarian” voters.

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        That’s actually what’s happening around me. Hilarious.

      • @PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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        In that case, you might even be a Democrat plant. I’m surprised he doesn’t have a grifting non-profit set up or something.

      • Evie
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        Yeah, but it still a better site than reddit for me… so I’ll deal with it LoL 😂

      • @PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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        For sure. I’m hoping as it matures that these communities get larger and better moderation teams. We’re still in the growing the user base mode.

    • DrQuickbeam
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      Came here to say this. There is no point in discussing what his policy plan would be.

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      john kwnnwdy senior was, fucker lobotomised his kid and hid it (he didnt know rosemary would end up the way ahe did cause lobotomy wasnt fully understood but hes still a stupid headstrong cunt who shouldve kniwn he cant just force his kids to alter their brains caude they dont obey his every command)

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    Every thing about this headline is wrong.

    1. He’s not mounting a bid to become President, he’s mounting a bid to peel off votes from Biden in order to help the GQP

    2. He’s not a Democrat, he just says he is.

    Dunno why news organizations are so scared to call out obvious bullshit nowadays.

    • @meco03211@lemmy.world
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      But he won’t win the primary. I don’t understand that. Democrats have superdelegates. He’s got to win the first round or well more than normal in a contested convention.

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        The point is people will vote for him in the primary, get butthurt when he loses, and then not vote for Biden in the general. Or worse, vote for the Republican candidate.

        It’s not a pure mathematical game, it’s about getting people to pick a team.

      • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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        My personal completely unsupported theory:

        Remember when all the Qtards were getting excited about Zombie JFK Jr being on their side?

        How much you want to bet some chucklehead saw RFK Jr being referenced as supporting them, assumed it was a typo, and proceded to make shit up?

        • @Hazdaz@lemmy.world
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          100% agree with your theory. But someone might want to tell all those Qtards that registered Republicans can’t vote in Democratic Primaries.

      • @theneverfox@pawb.social
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        That’s an interesting idea.

        I feel like we need to start putting teenagers in a separate category for a lot of reasons - that’s the age where people start to search for meaning and often look outside their parents for their identity

        Religion can be that for a lot of people - getting away from religion is that for others. Religion isn’t just God - it’s community, it’s history, it’s culture

        I think teens should have rights like religious freedom - it’s crazy to give a child no autonomy until they’re 18, then make them responsible for their life after they’ve often spent their most formative years having every decision made for them

        (Ironically, some religions incorporate a coming of age ceremony around 13)

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          Ironically, some religions incorporate a coming of age ceremony around 13

          Correct, but that isn’t a hard line where age matters if it is held at 18 instead. I think the biggest issue is Roman Catholics that force 12 year olds to pledge to be Catholic for life or be excommunicated from the church forever. That is an adult choice and no child should be forced to make.

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      Have a wing of my extended family who’ve shared his stuff and news org basically since it’s inception, and through the pandemic with all the 5g conspiracy stuff. The very definition of conspirituality people. They were all sheltered and educated in private Christian colleges, in to organic food and have gone through every health and weird diet trend.

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        conspirituality

        I only just learned this word the other day from a podcast interview. Wild to see it used here, too. Thanks for the reply.

    • Stoneykins [any]
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      I was confused at first because I thought the name of the podcast show was “This asshole just posted”

      Now I do wanna listen to that podcast but it doesn’t exist

    • FuglyDuck
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      How is this guy deluded enough to think he’s a democrat?

    • @PopularUsername@lemmy.world
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      The people that can actually make him look like an idiot refuse to interview or debate him (don’t want to “platform” him, among other concerns), so he looks like a genius to people that don’t know better.

      People also seem to be concerned that he can bullshit his way through a debate by overwhelming people with fake facts. This is completely false, I’ve seen clips where he gets light pushback from relatively neutral speakers and he immediately folds or says something stupid.

      People need to stop trying to sweep him under the rug, it only makes him look more authoritative and convincing to dumb people.

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    What a relief for HIM that HE would never need the procedure done so it’s a non issue for HIM… I am 22 weeks… Shame on HIM, all the MEN, and sadly brainwashed women, who push this forward

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      I’m not sure it’s brainwashing at this point so much as the fact that they know they don’t have any policies to talk about other than abortion, border control, gun freedoms, and lowering taxes for the rich. They have to flip flop between the three “acceptable” policies to keep their base entertained. They aren’t acting in good faith at all. Hopefully Trump will destroy the GOP by not getting the nomination, and causing a massive blue wave by splitting the party.

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      You’re going out of your way to blame men even while you acknowledge in the same breath that women also support this shit.

      Have you ever considered the problem isn’t men at all, but conservatives?

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        not really, no. I was unwanted and I got to hear about it every day of my life. I’m really only sticking around now to spite presumptuous pricks such as you and my mom.

      • Evie
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        That is not true. In fact there is a woman suing her family for having her without her consent… a whacky story sure, but real nonetheless and disproves your opinion with one person… So by technicality, not everyone alive is relieved they were not aborted… lol 😂

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        Fun fact, no one who was aborted ever had the cognitive ability to give a shit. Your empathy is so high into overdrive that you believe you can feel like a fetus.

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    Why isn’t he running as a Republican??? Is he just trying to the split the vote? I don’t understand at all

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      Gonna sound a bit conspiracy-laden but bear with me. His rhetoric is entirely republican from top to bottom and his demographics are nearly identical to trump’s. He may be attempting to poach citizen citrus’s audience without earning his ire. Desantis has run afoul of trump by running against him and has been disparaged heavily by trump as a result, but running as a democrat defuses RFKjr in trump’s eyes. The worst Kennedy released a book full of crazy and made a fair sum of money off of it, and he may just want to continue his grift on a bigger crowd. Regardless, his choice to run as a democrat is bad for Biden.