• ruckblack@sh.itjust.works
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    This is the second TIL about obscure incel information posted by this account in the past few days. What’s with the incel research, Don?

    • Don_Dickle@lemmy.worldOP
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      As a woman i was wondering about the root causes of it and if it can be stopped because I have a feeling that some Incels will take out their hate for women on a woman.

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        IMO, The best way to stop it would be to find ways for men to stop being attracted to women and desiring a romantic/sexual relationship. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be much research around that.

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            It is often said that “facts don’t care about feelings”, unfortunately, the reverse is also true: feelings don’t care about facts. I rationally know that I should respect women’s rights to not have undesirable men be attracted to them, but I still feel the attraction and don’t know how to deal with it.

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              Fair point, but there is a simple solution. Learn how to deal with it. Learn self control. Let that rational part of your mind do the driving.

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                Do you have any resources on that? All the ones I’ve found suggest that feelings of attraction are hard-wired into the brain and getting rid of them is impossible.

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                  I’m not saying to get rid of them, I’m saying to exercise self control so you don’t act on them. I dunno about resources on that, my dude. It’s just kind of a necessity to be a responsible adult.

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    That’s because the shift between the V sound and the S sound is very awkward. When that kind of shift is awkward, dropping one of the sounds entirely (usually the first one) is common.

    • Salmon (although there are pockets of people who still pronounce the “l”)
    • Receipt
    • Schedule (was originally pronounced with a “s-ch” combination, now is “sk” in America and “sh” in the UK)

    There’s plenty of common English words that have also changed spelling to go along with that pronunciation, though I can’t recall any at the moment.

    Edit: Thought of one: Donut. Yes, the “old-timey” spelling was “doughnut,” and is still found in relatively common use. Long ago that “gh” in there was pronounced like a “phlegmmy ‘h’.” As that sound fell out of use, it eventually fell completely out of the word “donut.”

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    It’s nuts to me that the incel movement was started by a woman.

    I was around back when the Red Pill subreddit was first getting off the ground. It used to be quite sane, a safe space for men. Venting was allowed, but misogyny was not (in a similar way to how you put up with a woman saying “all men are trash” when she’s in the post breakup anger phase). But eventually, the tidal wave of misogynistic men overthrew the sane ones, and it became what it’s known for now.

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      Why are people speaking of incels as if that’s some kind of club you need to apply for membership? Isn’t it by definition something you’re part of against your own will? That’s like talking about people under 6ft tall as some sort of secret society plotting the takeover of the world.

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        It really has nothing to do with whether or not they can have sex. That’s just a pretense for really fucked up ideas about sex, relationships, and women as a whole.

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        Being incel isn’t just about not getting laid…the important part is blaming everyone else for it. The term then gets co-opted as the people who blame everyone else for not getting laid.

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        I think it’s like racists. Whether one wants to be one or not is not tied with being one or not. That doesn’t mean they all have one secret handshake

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          Lots of them do like to flock with other racists, though. And follow racist speech online. It’s kind of an emergent club in a way.