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      The options on Android aren’t much better, unless you go for some obscure manufacturer who won’t support the phone with updates 1 year after its life cycle.

      Apple was for a while the only remaining flagship manufacturer who actually provided mini models. Ironic, because Android is supposed to be the alternative providing more options.

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        The options on Android aren’t much better

        Literally every one of them is better, because none of them are running iOS. That’s my subjective opinion.

        unless you go for some obscure manufacturer who won’t support the phone with updates 1 year after its life cycle.

        Samsung and Google both support devices for 5 years now. Doesn’t matter how long Apple “supports” the software because they don’t support the hardware.

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          I’m talking about small phones. iPhone 13 mini was the last decent option when it came to small phones. Neither Google or Samsung make phones that small. The smallest phones they make are same size as a regular iPhone 13.

          Now there’s only a few “obscure” manufacturers left who make small phones. “Obscure” manufacturers usually lack long term support on both the software and the hardware side to be a decent option.

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        Moto is still kicking, Samsung has small models too, Asus is going alright, Sony at least the are skinny.

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          I haven’t seen any phone offered by these manufacturers that is as small as iPhone 13 mini. At best they’re just marginally smaller than iPhone 15.

          There is no good alternative anymore if you’re looking for a truly small phone.

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      As if there are equivalent and small phones with Android.

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      I find that to be a good option. Unfortunately, given my current needs, the Apple Watch is the best device to meet them, so I’m stuck with the iPhone. And yes, I’ve researched the Galaxy Watch, too, but app integration and health measurements are considered lackluster compared to the AW.

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        that’s always the problem with android based stuff. good software is the one thing they can’t do.

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            It’s not impossible, it’s just a chore level difficulty. Either buy it in Apple Music or just pop the audio file into garage band and export as ringtone. iOS is way better than Android in every aspect except sideloading and expensive development and restrictions on what apps can do, but it’s already enough for your needs.

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              sideloading

              You have already shown you are brainwashed by apple. Have you ever even seen a modern android phone that costs more than $500?

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                Why quote sideloading?

                Lol, there are a TON. The Fairphone, pretty much every Samsung phone, Google Pixel, OnePlus 11, Motorola Razr… I could go on and on

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                  Because sideloading is a fake concept developed by apple because they want you to think that you can only install from the app store. It is called downloading and installing. On android, you have the benefit of multiple app stores to choose from, not just one. You can also download .apk directly and install that. With iOS you are SOL unless you have one of the few jailbreakable phones, which will fall behind on security updates and become inherently insecure.

                  Every one of those phones even in their standard configuration smack iOS flagships 6 ways to Sunday. I know this because I have used both, android since 2007 and iOS since 2012 to 2020.

                  Yes, it is harder to break an iOS system, but android offers infinitely more freedom, and the UI is not bad either. If you don’t like the UI, you can simply install another launcher.

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              Remind me how easy it is for you to download and email yourself a PDF and then turn around and send it to everyone you know?

              Don’t bother defending your Fisher Price phone. I already know how restrictive it is. I like my phone to be a computer, not a toaster.

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                My lawyer sent me a pdf via Gmail on my iPad, I signed it with the pencil and sent it back in five seconds. What are you talking about?

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      I’m hoping against hope that Google copies Apple and turns the Pixel 5 into a mold for the Google version of Pixel SE. I know it’s not happening, but that phone is close to perfect for me, it’s still my daily driver. Just give me a P5 SE with updated guts every two or three years.

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      Thing is, very few people bought the small phone. The community that wants them is very vocal, but they don’t show up in big numbers at the cash register.

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      Sadly I think the latest rumours were that they’d use the Xr/11 chassis for the new SE. hopefully not because if they use the 12/13 mini… oh boy it’d be great

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    As someone with tiny hands and tiny fingers, I’ve been thinking long and hard about this and in the future, when my 13 mini lets out its last breath, I’ll probably just go with a regular-sized iPhone and use Voice Control to swipe right and “go back” when I use it one-handed, since reachability doesn’t address how I struggle to reach the far end of the screen with one-hand (I even have to struggle a bit with the mini). Sucks that I’ll have to use voice control as a workaround, but I mostly bought an iPhone for the Apple Watch anyway.

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      Even Samsungs good update policy doesn’t beat Apple, where I can easily get 7 years worth of major versions (and still minor updates afterwards).

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        For my needs it works out much cheaper to buy a new android phone every few years, but it is such a waste.

        Depending on manufacturer you get up to 5 years of security updates, but the phone usually costs up to 800 euros less so it simply doesn’t make sense to buy the iphone.

        You end up throwing a perfectly good phone in a drawer, never to be used again.

        In ye olden days, it didn’t really matter that the phone was less secure. But with banking apps, you have no real choice in the matter.

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          My problem with cheap phones is, that they also degrade fairly quick. At the beginning they still feel fine but after just a few months of usage I already start to feel the micro stutters again. And I hate that. I blame Android in general for that and like that iOS’ ecosystem is typically a lot more efficient in that regard.

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      Unfortunately it hasn’t received a security update since March and Samsung have put it as EOL. Still a great phone but it’s not a small phone, it’s about the same size as the S23, it was just small compared to the S10 and S20 which were stupidly big.

      At this point, get an S23 or a normal iPhone if the S10e was a suitable size.

      Sent from my Galaxy S10e.

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    I was about to upgrade from my 6A to a 7 Pro for that sweet sweet camera but the 6A is the absolute limit of what I can put up with re-size. I need that phone to fit into all sorts of packs and pockets and any bigger just doesn’t work for me. If I have to, I’ll just start not using a phone as much anymore.

    These tech companies are pushing me to use tech less, not spend more…

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    That marks the end of life for arguably the best premium small phone designed for one-handed use.

    Market research has consistently shown that most users want bigger screens and batteries, which are incompatible with a smaller phone.

    Supply chain analysts and journalists with inside knowledge have generally agreed that Apple could update the iPhone SE as soon as next year—but most rumors have suggested that it would go bigger, not smaller.

    Many op-eds have been written at tech sites (including this one, by me) saying it’s important for Apple to offer a one-handed phone size, even if it’s less popular than the bigger models.

    That said, supporting an additional size adds extra supply chain and production overhead—and it may not be the most financially prudent decision for Apple if it’s confident that it can covert mini owners to join the majority and opt for larger phones instead.

    Chances are that axing the iPhone 13 mini won’t do much to hurt Apple’s earnings, but it leaves a minority of consumers without an important option, and I still think that’s bad news.


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    I can see the appeal of these little phones, but I think the batteries weren’t as good as the other counterparts… so that aspect alone made me pass them.

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      They also couldn’t fit the pro cameras. If you wanted a small phone, you had to accept shit battery and base model cameras.

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    Why? Why do they make so few small phones? We have the tech, and people like me really prefer it over the behemoths of the modern day. WHYYYYYYY?

    EDIT: That gif came out WAY bigger than I expected. Apologies to your eyes, my friends.

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    I’d been using an iPod Touch 4G thru 7G, for my everything pocket computer. Apple killed the iPod Touch, so I migrated to iPhone 13 mini just over a year ago. Sorry folx, they prolly killed the 13 mini cuz of me. Any other Apple products you’d like me to latch onto, so Apple will kill it? :-(