• stevestevesteve@lemmy.world
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      I’m not one of the maniacs making threats of any kind, but honestly it really seems like death threats are the only thing that gets any attention anymore, so I can understand why it’s done…

      Is “eat the rich” not a death threat in its own right?

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        It is, and here’s the thing: All of society, laws, and legal recourses ultimately just boil down to “might makes right, but with extra steps.” We all love to act like this isn’t the case in a civilized society, but it is. That might usually rests with the police, the military, some governmental organization, or some megacorporation. Violence both literal and metaphorical is inflicted on the common person continually by those at the top. Who are the police after all? Just guys with guns. Who are judges and politicians? Just guys with access to the police. Who are megacorporations? Just guys with access to judges and politicians, and so on down the line. So when someone says they have the law on their side, and you don’t, what they’re really implying is that they can call the guys with guns, who if you don’t do what they say (no matter how ridiculous) can literally kill you. And we treat this as normal and proper and reasonable, because we’re stupid.

        These motherfuckers want to act like their violence or threat of violence is justified, and that’s a one way street.

        Well, it ain’t. Nobody’s invulnerable.

        Maybe it’s “just” video games. (Or “just” a cell phone app, or “just” a predatory subscription, or “just” an apartment with exorbitant rent, or whatever.) But big corporations are fucking with people’s livelihoods, here. There’s a reason we colloquially call such a thing “a living.” These are assholes taking food off of someone’s table, just for greed, just because they can, because they think they’ve above reproach. Because the whole teetering facade is lopsided. It doesn’t matter who the fuck they are at that point.

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          Yeah, this is basically why I’m not buying these arguments against a struggle of any kind, just because methods of it are illegal.

          Illegality =/= your cause or methods are wrong

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          Call me whatever you want but Im happy the people who make these bad decisions from their insulated lots in life have to face at least some kind of consequences now, because the law is explicitly set up so that they typically never have to. Sucks that it comes to this but its behavior analysis 101, if you dont introduce consequences for undesirable behaviors, you’d be an idiot to expect change.

          I don’t love that it’s probably caught up a lot of people who have nothing or little to do with it though, but the guys at the top need consequences or nothing will change, and beggars cant be choosers.

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        Is “eat the rich” not a death threat in its own right?

        Maybe it is but I always took it as “let’s take their money and redistribute the wealth.”

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          There is no meaningful difference between a threat and a warning. I’ve never understood why we see that retort so often when someone asks “is that a threat?!”. It’s the same damn thing.

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            Threat in criminal sense requires that subject of the threat is identifiable…

            Who is the rich in that “threat” above?

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      Death threats are not OK, but this can destroy years of work for people, and it can threaten their livelihood. I’m guessing this has pushed some people into a sense of desperation. And these threats are acts of desperation, not threats that have a huge chance of being carried out.

      John Riccitiello needs to be fired, if he isn’t Unity deserves bankruptcy for this move.

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          Why would they do that? They are not directly impacted by this. Developers losing years of work have much more reason to be super angry.

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            Ever been in a game forum where the players pretty much worship the developers as if they were gods? It’s way too common. Those people can get crazy protective when they make it part of their identity.

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              Nope, but I can imagine that to some degree.

              Despite that, I doubt gamers are very involved in payment methods of game engines, or even know which game engine their games are running on.

              So unless some VERY popular game developers have been out saying expansions for their favorite games will not be released because of this, I don’t see the mechanics for what you claim working at this point.

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      it’s just edgy teens saying that they’re gonna go murder them, it’s not really going to happen but they have to take safety precautions

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          Yeah, these people would need to be real for the jail haha

          People making up false crime deff should go to jail

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    Whatcha wanna bet there aren’t any death threats? Seems to be a go to for “we’re assholes, but look at these imaginary assholes instead!”

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      Don’t underestimate that shit. I’ve personally got death threats before. People are dumb as fuck. I’ve seen people actually follow through. Life is fucked up. Everyone’s batshit these days.

      I don’t say that in Support of unity though.

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        Yeah, not only will people send death threats, but they’ll send them to random people they see on LinkedIn who happen to have the company in their bio.

        Instead of, like, to the CEO’s house.

        Because too many people are both angry reactionaries, and also cowards.

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      I will absolutely take that bet. Given both how unpopular the decision is combined with it being even tangentially related to the gaming community I would be astonished if they didn’t receive death threats.

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      Knowing how despicable the worst of the gaming community can be, I have no doubts that death threats were real.

      I also have no doubts that the despicable CEO, like others of his ilk who receive entirely justified negativity for their stupidity, will milk it as an excuse to dilute the negative feedback and shift to victimization.

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    Shitty Executive: “Oh shit, our terrible idea turned out to be wildly unpopular and we’re getting massive negative feedback! Quick, play the death threats card to make us look like the victim!”

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      Perhaps they could pay a small fee to not receive them.

      Or purchase the Happy Customer Times Season Pass, where for 12 months they only receive feedback telling them how awesome they’re doing. Only $39.99 per employee!

      *fees are liable to change at any time without notice, new prices may be applied retroactively

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    Starting on January 1, developers will be charged a fee every time someone installs a game built in Unity after they reach certain revenue or install thresholds.

    Obviously death threats are not ok, but for fucks sake, that change is insane. People may install games many times for many reasons, like switching drives, computer, OS or debugging, or corruption, or because they go back to it after not playing for a while.

    How is it a good model to charge for repeated installs?

    The decision sparked an astonishing backlash against Unity from across the gaming industry,

    I bet, this will threaten some people on their livelihood, and if you are 90% finished on a project, it’s an insane change that will force you to switch to another engine, and could kill several projects.

    Also as a user, this increases the need and amount of DRM mechanics, which we need less not more of.

    I hope Unity will see a massive dive in customers on these policies. This is the kind of decision a company deserves bankruptcy for. And the CEO John Riccitiello deserves to be fired without benefits, and never hired as CEO again.

    Edit PS:

    The fee is up to $0.20, that’s steep and would mean the end of sub $10 games. This would hurt single and indie developers very much.

    Luckily there are other engines, but Unity used to be among the good ones, now they’ve become an untrustworthy player, and that decreases competition for the entire field.

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    Mm, I’m curious as to what the threats actually were. I’ve seen people claim they got death threats because someone tweeted “kys” at them in response to their homophobic bullshit.

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    So, the leadership of Unity is a complete piece of shit, but death threats (or really, any other threat of violence) are just straight up idiotic. It’s a game engine company. There are much more fun and interesting (and, you know, legal) ways to kill the company in a commercial sense.

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    This is becoming standard operating procedure from companies that want a quick PR boost.

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    Is this because the gaming community has an unfortunate number of hateful trolls or what exactly?

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      It’s because of loose definitions of “death threats” and the fact that when you piss off millions of people a couple of them are bound to tweet “i hope u die” at a ceo

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        If they had to close their offices, I think that’s a good indication of it being serious.

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          I feel like they could have realized that having their employees sitting around discussing how much their Csuite fucked them probably wasn’t doing them any favors. On the other hand that would also represent a degree of awareness they haven’t really demonstrated a capacity for.

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    This is a reminder that there are crazy people on the internet.

    But this is NOT a reason to have sympathy for Unity.