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    American: makes any sort of joke about any country, even if it’s the smallest most unoffending thing

    Person from that country : ur children get shot in schools

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        Okay, but you do realize that comeback makes you look bad right, not us? No matter your reasons or intentions, you are mocking children being murdered. Like in the example below:

        American: lol British people eat spotted dicks.

        A brit: lol American children get shot at school.

        Wow. What a zinger, you really got me with that one, a fool I was to not recognize the comedy of children dying horrifically.

        (To be clear, I didn’t come up with that example randomly. I’ve seen the mocking of spotted dick be met with “lol child murder” more than once)

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          They’re mocking us for letting children get murdered. Don’t get all civility politics up in here if you can’t even grasp the concept of the jab.

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            Is spotted dick political? I suppose us americans should have known it was a contentious subject that warrants jokes about child murder

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            It’s a fucking ignorant ass jab directed at the wrong people. The majority of Americans support stricter gun laws, it is NOT the common mans fault that our centuries old political system is set up in a way that a minority party can have so much influence.

            Like I already said, no matter the reasons or intentions, they ARE mocking children being murdered. Maybe it’s “lol you guys let children die lol” instead of “lol child death lol”, but either way children are dead and they are laughing. Meanwhile, the majority of Americans are horrified by it and pissed off nothing is being done by our government to stop it.

            It’s also just incredibly thin-skinned. Really, you’re gonna get so offended over a joke about spotted dick that your only response is “you guys have school shootings lol”.

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              The majority of Americans support stricter gun laws, it is NOT the common mans fault that our centuries old political system is set up in a way that a minority party can have so much influence.

              I didn’t personally throw any tea into the Boston harbor but you better believe I’m going to use that as ammo against a brit if I feel like it. Personal agency has no meaning when talking about entire countries.

              Civility politics is cringe as fuck. Get over yourself and threaten to liberate their country instead of whining about people being mean on the internet.

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              Either everything is OK to joke about or nothing is. You can have your personal line you won’t cross but don’t project that onto other people.

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              Then how about you do something about it instead of complaining that other people point it out?

              It is not like any other developed country has that problem.

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          Seems like the comeback is working since it gets Yanks flustered and writing paragraphs of text as a reply lol

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          Nobody is mocking children for being murdered, that would be disgusting.

          People are mocking the very much unique to the US culture of yes, we know children are being shot in schools, and no, we aren’t going to do anything about it, you crazy freedom-hating commie!

          It’s a macabre mocking of your crazy gun culture and politics. Not of your children. I thought that was pretty obvious.

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        Sure, maybe it’s crass for me to mock you for something so traumatic, but on the plus side I have never personally murdered a child so I think I’m doing just fine.

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        You should be ashamed of yourself. Many wonderful people live in this country. We have so much to do - and yes, we are plagued by many horrors - but we persevere.

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          Instead of persevering, how about you fix the problem that no other developed country has?

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            What do you want me to do? Wave my hands and say some magic words and presto have everything be fixed? It doesn’t fucking work that way.

            I do what I can within my means. I vote every election for candidates supporting gun and mental healthcare reforms, I do my best to educate my less politically aware friends, I support activist organizations, etc… I’m fucking sorry if I’m not personally out there torching politicians houses or whatever the fuck you expect me to do, but I’ve got people that depend on me not being in fucking prison.

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          You ever considered that maybe the US deserves to be ridiculed for seeing children die and choosing to do nothing about it?

          I understand it’s a touchy subject, but come on. It’s a serious stain on the US. The US deserves immense criticism for it.

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        At least over here we do have some school shootings even with stricter European gun control laws. It‘s just not as prevalent as in the US.

        I guess sometimes overly criticising the US can be seen as some kind of envy. The freedom we admire but the shortcomings we don’t want to have or admit. It‘s just that this extreme bipartisanship and reluctance to talk civilly with each other is disheartening to see.

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          1. Right wing sources, yay.

          2. If you honestly compare Germany and the US, you will notice that the prevalence of rape is much higher in the US (US: ~43/100k vs. Ger: ~15/100k, source: statista.com). Comparing gang rape specifically is more difficult though, because the US doesn’t seem to keep track of that (or at least i couldn’t find absolute numbers). According to Wikipedia 22.8% of rapes with female victims where gang rapes. That makes ~9/100k in the US vs ~1/100k in Germany.

          Then again I don’t think statistics regarding a lot of crimes are easily comparable. There might be differences regarding underreporting and legal definitions that skew numbers in different ways.

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          mental health may be one of the source causes but the cultural enabler of prolific gun ownership and worship is the missing key no other country has

          edit: I will add many Americans here are pretty antigun which is great, I just wish there were another 300m like you

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            The overwhelming majority of so-called school shootings are single-target attacks over gang/drug disputes carried out by poor inner-city kids. They’re victims of poverty and mental health, no amount of overnight gun reform will fix the illegal guns that these kids have access to.

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          You may, if they are prolific and not just a single crime gang doing rounds.

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      • One of them is a stereotype based on ignorance and racism.

      • The other one is children getting shot at schools.

      Funny how both of these things come from the US.