Summary
A suspect vandalized and set fire to Teslas at a Las Vegas Collision Center early Tuesday in what police call a “targeted attack.”
The assailant, dressed in black, shot at five vehicles, torched two, and left an undetonated Molotov cocktail. They also spray-painted “Resist” on the building.
Authorities have not confirmed a political motive but noted Elon Musk’s ties to Trump. The FBI is investigating, warning that such acts are federal crimes.
Tesla has faced backlash amid Musk’s government role and far-right politics.
Most rad thing I’ve read this week. So far, at least.
I don’t know, are we sure the Tesla didn’t spontaneously combust? They’re known to do that. Wouldn’t want a manufacturing error pinned on an innocent person…
The most fucked up part of this is the fact that the FBI is involved. I’m old enough to remember a time when someone vandalizing a few cars in a lot at 3 in the morning when nobody was around would be a local PD issue, and not the fucking FBI. Seems like it was only a couple of months ago… man, time flies.
Seriously, though - in a normal world, this would be far below the payroll of FBI agents. They would spend their time investigating terrorist organizations or child traffickers and bounce this shit back to LVMPD and tell Tesla to file an insurance claim. Instead, the head of the FBI is the lackey of the president, who owes his position to the billionaire that owns Tesla, and so now the FBI is serving as Elon Musk’s personal private investigators. It’s disgusting.
Those times were 30 years ago as of tomorrow. Since Oklahoma, the FBI has been very interested in domestic political violence and terror.
Actually 30 years ago as of a month and a day from now (April 19th, 1995). Still, there’s a huge fucking difference between a little light arson and parking a van packed full of explosives in front of a federal building. This is property damage, not terrorism.
It’s politically motivated property damage, which is terrorism. It starts with light arson, and when that doesn’t bring down the government, it escalates and before too long there’s a truckload of fertiliser outside the White House because someone doesn’t know when to stop.
It’s politically motivated property damage, which is terrorism
By that metric, you could also claim that defacing a political sign during election season is terrorism. Some terrorist drew a mustache on a billboard of one of the candidates in my district. Should the FBI investigate that, too?
The problem with your slippery slope argument is that it’s fucking stupid. You have to draw the line somewhere. If the FBI is going to investigate every time someone decides to huck a molotov cocktail at a nazimobile, they’re going to have their hands way too full to track down real crimes.
They should keep the FBI busy then…
Well. Using feds for vandalization is not a scalable solution
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fuck yeah
Teslas aren’t selling, but playing the victim, pointing the finger, AND collection insurance? Even better.
I’m sure a few radicals are out there vandalizing a Tesla or two, but I don’t believe for a second this isn’t insurance fraud with a bonus of labelling people who speak out against you as domestic terrorists.
The “RESIST” graffiti is a dead giveaway; people with Fox-addled brians don’t understand the difference between liberals and anarchists (the way insurance adjusters do)
Elon bought the cars in Canada and people figured it out. Now he has no other option than to make organized arson to claim insurance and recoup his losses.
Hell yeah, cleanse the filth with the holy flame!!!
Love seeing this hurting FElon. I just hope people are checking these cars before the battery spontaneously combusts to ensure nobody is sleeping in one we don’t want to give them any reason to turn this into a bigger deal by having a murder involved.
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What goes around comes around
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Burning Teslas is stupid and wasteful. All this does is get Elon a free check from the insurance company.
Protesting and stigmatizing buying a Tesla works better.
Fuck being “wasteful”. It makes consumers think twice about buying one, which is the actual intended consequence.
Elope doesn’t care about the insurance payout on a handful of undelivered units. Theres been like <30 cars burnt so far. Manufacturers lose hundreds of vehicles to random damage and acts of god every year.
But the brand damage and resulting tens of thousands of lost sales caused by consumers seeing this and thinking “I may be a target if I buy this car”… THAT makes a dent in the bottom line, and is market pressure working as intended.
Also can impact the insurance rates - https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-insurance-costs-could-surge-amid-anti-elon-musk-vandalism-2044675
No, it bring attention to him being a shitbag. Burn them all down.
Protesting and stigmatizing buying a Tesla works better.
Maybe if you are are someone who expects change to just magically “appear” and for the system to simply correct itself so that they can go back to consuming.
Protest without the ultimate threat of force behind it is a parade.
Steal them and strip them for their batteries and parts instead.
Protest without the ultimate threat of force behind it is a parade.
I’ve never heard it worded this way, before, but it sums up something that has been bothering me about modern protests: they are parades.
Protest is supposed to be disruptive
Eventually, it might make Teslas uninsurable.
If this keeps up, no insurance company will insure Teslas anymore. I’m fairly sure the prices for that have already gone up and will continue to do so. It’s a high-risk asset now.
Elon doesn’t get anything. Well unless the troglodyte having his Tesla just burned down goes out and buys another in hopes this one won’t combust or see him on the wrong side of a mob.
Exactly. If they weren’t going to sell, and signs are pointing that they aren’t, then the vandalizing is just giving them money via insurance as stated.
And leave the people alone that already had Tesla’s prior to Musk going mask-off. They were trying to be part of the solution (moving to EVs) and there’s no reason to harass/attack/vandalize them.
But definitely point and laugh at anyone going out and buying a Tesla now.
It raises the price they have to pay thousands of other teslas, and if it happens enough, insurance will drop them. Insurance companies don’t want to pay out, and they will pull coverage when it becomes too expensive for them to insure.
I just came across this relevant article this morning.
“If vandalism involving Tesla vehicles continues to rise and doesn’t go back down, we could see rates rise for comprehensive coverage in the future,” he said.
Martin explained that when carried, vandalism is covered by the comprehensive portion of an auto policy. While vandalism claims typically don’t increase insurance rates as much as collision claims, they can impact rates, she explained.
Martin added: “Since the recent rise in vandalism is focused on Teslas and not other make vehicles, drivers who carry Tesla Insurance may see a higher premium hike than those who have coverage with other carriers, since the risk of loss isn’t as diversified.”
Be that as it may, you’re not going to get me to even tacitly endorse arson. Sorry not sorry.
I’m prefacing this clearly; I’m not endorsing anything here.
The current regime is restricting healthcare, trying to legislate people out of existence, and straight up disappearing people. Suffragettes torched and bombed.
That’s great.
Nobody cares if you gasp at the sight of protest outside of the designated protest area . Just like nobody cares if you disapprove of a picket line blocking a road because how dare they.
Like what is the end goal here put Tesla out of business? Does anyone believe this would hurt Elon? Say Tesla went bankrupt, so now Elon musk would be worth $230 billion instead of $330 billion. He would live his life exactly the same but now thousands of normal people are underwater on their cars. How is this “winning”?
What am I missing here?
TSLA market cap $766B. That’s a nice loss, if it could be achieved.
Besides, what you’re missing is quite obvious: the only thing that musk understands is fear. Make your own inferences.
You understand that he only ownes 10 or 15% of Tesla. The majority of that is probably held by index funds and other peoples 401ks. So again normal people would loose a lot of money.
If Tesla went bankrupt it would literally be a drop in the bucket for Musk. Also what would he fear? He can pay for his own boat or literal island and security. Saying people should go after musk vs go after anyone who drives a Tesla is very different.
I don’t give a fuck how much he owns. The point is to hose all the fat fucks and to brand him as toxic. And to familiarize those assholes with urgent dread.
Musk’s purchase of Twitter was backed by Tesla stock. If the stock tanks enough, that bill comes due.
No it doesn’t that not how it works ugh…
We’re in this whole mess because people don’t think through their words and actions. Anyone advocating blindly going after anyone with a Tesla then you’re really no better then Musk.
On that note do I have the answers on how to fix this mess, no, but I know it’s not this.
That is how it works in this case. Musk took loans backed by the value of his TSLA holding as collateral in order to fund his part of the twitter purchase. Value of TSLA drops enough, those loans get called.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/elon-musk-faces-margin-call-on-loan-used-to-purchase-twitter
https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/25/23141940/elon-musk-tesla-twitter-margin-loan-buyout-deal
I don’t know if we have enough visibility into how much he’s currently margined to know when he’s at risk of getting called again, but it doesn’t seem realistic to think that he’s not currently margined.
Spoken like a true Enlightened Centrist.
Basically people pissed off and need an outlet for that but can’t see the forest for the trees. 🤷♂️
