Summary
In a Fox News interview, Donald Trump argued that Ukraine should not have resisted Russia’s 2022 invasion, claiming Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy should have made a deal with Vladimir Putin.
Trump criticized Zelenskyy for choosing to fight, compared the military strength of Russia and Ukraine, and said he could have ended the war quickly through negotiations.
Trump’s stance contrasts with Joe Biden’s strong support for Ukraine, including aid and sanctions on Russia.
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Oh. Wow. You win.
If that rooftop guy could hit the mark like this comment did, we wouldn’t be having to listen to his chaotic-evil nonsense right now.
Ukraine HAD a deal with Russia ensuring its peace and its borders. It was called the Budapest Memorandum. Russia was the one violating the deal Russia had agreed to.
I think you’re confused that was the treaty that said NATO couldn’t come within forty thousand miles of its borders and what about Biden’s Ukrainian money laundering bio-facilities?
Youbare forgetting also the warcrimes of Umranians where they have time travel labs yhey use to travel back in time to kill baby jesus every day and internet hacking centers used to force musk do awkward gestures. Truly the axis of evil.
I didn’t forget anything I just was listing stuff in order of importance.
You also forget Ukranian corrupt camera lens factories sabotaging all cameras worldwide in order to make the earth seem not flat.
What about Volodymyr Zelenskyy assassinating JFK?
That is propaganda and if you think about it, obviously impossible.
He did cause every issue in human history by convincing the first ape to stand up tho.
In case anyone is thinking of taking this troll seriously, there is no treaty that prevents NATO from expanding east. There was something like it between NATO and the USSR but Russia officially is not the successor to USSR so they have no claim to that guarantee. It’s all Russian propaganda.
Officially, they are the USSR successor state; they received the USSR’s seat on the UN security council.
Okay. This is a bit more nuanced and what I gave was my opinion, as in they’re not the successor. They are the successor in some cases, but whether they’re actually the successor or not depends on which option is beneficial to Russia. When it comes to NATO Russia likes to act like it’s the successor, but when it comes to reparations for the atrocities the USSR committed that’s when Russia says they’re not actually the successor to the USSR and can’t be responsible for the atrocities committed by the USSR. I’m my eyes you can’t have it both ways and as such I’m just taking cues from the Russian playbook. Whatever guarantees were given they were given to the USSR and not Russia, especially when those guarantees were never on paper.
There was something like it between NATO and the USSR but Russia officially is not the successor to USSR so they have no claim to that guarantee.
Like, if you seriously believe that, you should check your reasoning skills.
This isn’t the ship of theseus. Not everything was exchanged. USSR changed one small thing which is its name and became Russia, that does not invalidate all prior agreements.
USSR dissolved in 1991 when its last member state, Khazakstan, left. Russia, which had left the union prior, found itself with a lot of nuclear warheads. Other ex-member states agreed to hand the nukes they had to Russia. Having nuclear weapons and having the means to maintain them and launch them, Russia naturally joined the Security Council in 1991.
So why isn’t Russia taking responsibilities for the atrocities and illegal occupations done by the USSR? It’s as if it’s not just a name change.
Also what agreement do you think gives Russia that guarantee? There’s no paper that says NATO won’t expand east.
Russia’s not taking responsibility for the atrocities and illegal occupations done by Russia.
Which empires actually gave reparations to former countries though? Sadly Russia doesn’t seem to do worse than the rest of the world in this area
Jesus fuck, ppl. This is sarcasm.
Is it? It’s hard to tell anymore.
This is literally all the “anti war” arguments. George Washington should have just stopped resisting the red coats.
Washington was part of a revolution. This is an invasion. More like Russia should have just let Napoleon have it.
Sure, but that makes it entirely unrelatable to the Americans making these arguments.
Fair enough. How about this?
It’s like letting the SCARY EVIL (mysteriously suddenly nonexistent) IMMIGRANT MEXICAN CARAVAN INVADERS just come in and have the US.
Are they eating our pets though?
Obviously. That’s what brown people do, right? The clearly authoritative (checks notes) rich white Nazi on TV told me.
Not if you eat them first!
I wish I could eat my puppies and have their scruffy faces and waggy tails with me all the time! Petting them would be difficult…
😋
How to eat Your Dogs
By @danc4498@lemmy.world
- Stop crying
- Seriously, stop crying. If you don’t stop crying in gonna start crying
- WHY ARE WE DOING THIS??? THEY’RE SO CUTE AND INNOCENT!!!
- I’m vegan now
The end.
It’s kind of a revolution though because it all started with Maydan and the ousting of Russian puppet Yanukovitch.
Of course he did. Trump would never stand up to a bully, he would never defend the weak against the nasty. That would take courage, but Trump has only cowardice and sycophacny for bullies.
Trump is a person who sucks up to bullies, and punches down on the bullied, through and through.
Convicted rapist says victims shouldnt fight back
“Just lay there and take it.” Is Trump’s motto
It sounds right in content and in him not knowing that lay is a transitive verb.
A WHAT-itive verb?!?
-shits out a new Executive Order-
Trump is a little bitch. Doesn’t know what being a man is, because if he did, he’d do the opposite of this.
It’s worse. I doubt he knows what being a human is…
Yo. You know. Screw him. Slava Ukraini!!!
“They’re saying ‘the war is tomorrow’ – this causes panic on the market and elsewhere," Zelensky, Jan 2022 in response to US warnings of imminent Russian invasion.
Zelensky didn’t “choose to fight” because Russia insisted there would be no fight right up until it crossed the border. It would’ve been considered a sneak attack but for the US telling everyone Russia was invading for a full month in advance. There was no choice offered to Zelensky and never has been since, unless you count Russia’s current stance of basically “give us all your weapons and maybe then we’ll negotiate”/
You might not believe me but anyone can just walk into maralargo. Trump won’t have you trespassed, he will offer you a cash deal to leave. Trust me, it’s true. Ez money.
This is why he’s having such a hard time getting Musk to leave. How do you make a problem go away when your only problem solving skill is bribery and your problem is a higher degree of wealth than your bribing power?
Fuck Trump you spineless corporate shill
Well yeah, and now he’s taking this move from Putin’s playbook for Greenland. He’s at the “people in Greenland would rather be US citizens” stage. Putin did the same thing in the beginning when talking about the territories in Ukraine he wanted to take.
Of course the convicted felon would say that Ukraine should just lie down and let Russia grab 'em by the country.
Really? So, Mexico can take back what they lost and the USA will not resist.
If by that you mean Texas? Please take it back.
Only if they take Florida also. Package deal.
Actually, they can have all the Gulf states.
golf states
What about states where they play other sports ?
Aren’t most of the Golf states land locked?
But Lousiana was French.
Does he really believe this, or is this redirected anger because he’s finally figured out that he can’t, in fact, just solve it?
Probably, Putin told him to pound sand, and then OPEC basically just ignored him when collapsing oil prices was the next idea.
Putin didn’t tell him to pound sand. Putin holds the leash. Everything Donald Trump says and does is to advance Russian interests.
I see little evidence of that. At most Putin has a small amount of leverage on him. Basically, there’s just a lot of stuff good for Putin Trump could do but doesn’t.
It’s only the first week.
In his previous term, he had to be forced by Congress to keep sanctions against Russia in place. Getting rid of them was one of his first priorities.
He also has been publicly threatening to economically destroy Russia for the last week, so there, a bit of evidence both ways.
Meanwhile, he could order assassinations in Ukraine if he wanted to and nobody could stop him.
Trump says a lot of shit. He also said Ukraine shouldn’t have fought back.
Actions speak louder than words.
His pro-Russia actions are way more weak than I would allow if I were Putin and actually controlled him, though.
Because of the separation of powers and checks and balances we have in the US, he doesn’t have unilateral power to do whatever he wants. He can typically only inch toward Putin’s goals. Why do you think he is trying to weaken our relationships with our allies through tariffs and talk of land grabs?
In less than a week, he’s fucked up relations with Mexico, Canada and the EU. California had proposed secession. In less than a week. This is all Putin’s marching orders, being enacted in broad daylight, and your response is “kinda weak”?
At least you’ve kept your head warm this winter, placing it firmly up your backside as you’ve obviously done.
