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    Lemmy before i installed connect:

    us politics us politics us politics

    Lemmy after i filtered politics using connect:

    Comments bitching about there being politics…

    Cant win

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        Its not neccesarily obsessive, its just those happened to be communiies commoted tonleaving the other site, ao it visually appears to be the mainstream thought.

        Linux is one of the larger communties who made the jump (in general tech people are more prone to caring about privacy and control, as tech communities in general are some of the largest here on lemmy)

        Heck one of the largest communities is piracy discussion.

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        Not entirely correct.

        It’s obsessive hatred of car dependency. It’s not that surprisingly many of us hate cars, it’s that surprisingly many of us hate that you necessarily need a car to do anything outside of the house.

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          Nooo, I ended up having to filter the fuckcars community because they were angry at ANYBODY that uses a car for any reason - like top voted comments and posts. I saw somebody get jumped by multiple responders for bringing up how there are small towns and people that live hours away from large cities that would still need cars for transportation

          Like, I’m as much for improving public transit and reducing the amount of cars on the road in every instance where it’s viable. I specifically moved within 10 miles of my job so I could start riding my bike to work instead of driving my hybrid car. It’s not that I’m pro car, I’m just anti-extremist

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            I’ve gotten into it with a couple of guys for needing a truck. I’m a construction electrician. That means that in addition to lugging my tools around, I have to transport rather large and heavy pieces of equipment/gear on occasion. I’d happily rock a van, but it’s hell trying to find a 4x4 van (snow) at a reasonable price due to the van life crowd. I’ve had guys say use public transport or car share, like dude, I work 6 days a week, that isn’t viable. It’s a completely one sided conversation with them.

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          Nah man, there’s some crazy fucking Fuck Cars peoples who don’t even think parents of severely mentally disabled children should have a car.

          There’s always absolute extremists, and they are never fucking silent.

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          See the issue here is that a lot of these Reddit activists, they start out with a good cause that a lot of people could be sympathetic towards but they end up taking it too far because they’re all terminally online extremists.

          Here’s a few examples:

          Veganism: A lot of people are on board with treating animals better and eating more plants, but Redditors take it too far by advocating for the complete ban of meat and the prosecution of places like homeless shelters for providing turkeys on thanksgiving because that’s genocide to them.

          Cars: A lot people would agree that we should decrease dependency on cars because they’re loud, they pollute, and they’re dangerous, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to ban all cars with no exceptions even if the exception is for parents with disabled kids.

          Atheism: A lot of people would consider the possibility of there being no God and that religions deserve criticism, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to force all religious people to convert to atheism… or else.

          Work reform: A lot of people support the idea of having stronger work protections and better wages, but Redditors take it too far by either by being full blown tankies or by rejecting the idea of work all together, regardless of how delusional and impractical that is.

          Feminism: Most people believe that women should have equal rights and treatment in society, but Redditors take it too far by being full blown misandrists who want to oppress all men and “liberate” women from them.

          Not to mention how with every one of these types of communities you always have the classic “you’re either with us or against us” mentality. Every disagreement makes a you a nazi/altright/bigot, their cause is totally comparable to the struggle against nazi Germany and the holocaust, and they are totally the good guys who have the total support of the general public (especially the young people) and that they’re just a minor enemy (read: cartoon villain) away from achieving utopia.

          The communities on here are just an extension of those, and they bring with them the same type of toxic idiots to this platform.

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        linux users are of course the first to move to something like this, and the /r/fuckcars community is as well now a bit. also let’s be honest, fuck cars. and fuck windows.

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        Hating Windows is not political, it’s more of a philosophical issue. One can simply choose to live happier with a system that is configured by him, for him, and doesn’t throw ads everywhere.

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          I’m very tech savvy for an old un, and I’m perfectly happy using Windows; it’s easy to configure to do exactly as you want, and maybe it’s an EU thing but I’m not seeing any ads

          What pisses us off is whenever there’s a question about Windows, multiple Linux kids will flood the thread with “tHiS doESn’t hAPpEn iN LiNuX”

          If someone asked why their headlights weren’t working on their 2014 VW Golf, and someone answered, “Well I have a 2009 Ford Focus and this doesn’t happen”, you’d think they were a fuckin idiot, wouldn’t you?

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            If the VW Golf had a complete monopoly on the car market to the point where you had to spend years jumping through hoops just to be able to drive your Focus on the roads, despite the Golf being an extremely shitty car when taken on its own merits, you’d probably be pretty resentful to the people who enable that monopoly, too.

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              No, it sounds like people who are constantly being told that Linux is “too hard to use” compared to Windows speaking up when they see a blatant example of that not being true.

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                I think you just inadvertently called them morons, lol. In any case, I used Linux exclusively for about five years. It is more difficult for most users than windows. The majority of the time, with windows, you just plug shit in and it will work for you. On Linux, it requires you to research what MAY work for your hardware. Often times, if it does work, you are missing features for your hardware. For software, you generally have to look up programs that will do what you’d like, as most mainstream programs aren’t released for function with Linux. Additionally, most users are not familiar with our comfortable enough with using command line interfaces. You must be able to use command line as a Linux user. I haven’t used Linux in approximately a decade, so some things might have changed, but people won’t know that because the issues I pointed out were true for a long time. Most people aren’t savvy enough to use Linux and they don’t have the time/patience to learn it. Why this makes Linux users upset, I’ll never know, it’s all rather silly and unimportant.

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              Lol Amazon comments are a league of their own. Half the questions are:
              Q) Does product do thing?
              A) I don’t know

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            The ads thing is because you probably have a different idea of what an ad is then they do. Usually when they are talking about ads, it’s self-promotional stuff. Teams being built in, Onedrive asking to be setup, and especially Edge constantly begging you to give it a chance.

            There’s also that link to the Microsoft store for Candy Crush in the start menu of fresh installs of Windows 10. I imagine that’s what kicked off the whole ‘loaded with ads’ thing. That’s one anyone can agree on.

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              Yeah. You’re getting menus to buy Office 365 and Gamepass in Settings. Stuff like that. That’s not the main reason I’m not using Windows, but it’s a small brick in the wall. Of course, everyone can use whatever makes them happy. I like having things to be setted up for my personal usecases, so I’m using Linux.

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            I thought that the sub OP was complaining about pro-Linux memes and just posts complaining/making fun of Windows. Also, no, it’s not just an EU thing. Windows 10 displays ads in start menu, 11 is a little bit better when it comes to taskbar, but they’re advertising in settings and other places. Also, a lot of telemetry and bloatware. Requiring to login, to create an account is a deal braker for me too. It’s not a bad OS, but not good either. It has a good software support, so you don’t need to use stuff like Wine or Proton, to run some apps/games(and some apps don’t work even with Wine, because of the DRMs), so I still have a VM inside my Artix with Windows(debloated, tho).

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            It’s not an EU thing. As an American, the small popups that show EVERY NOW AND THEN are not that big of a deal. I use windows for work, mac for personal, and Linux for other things like my server and hobby projects. Linux has regularly given me the most trouble.

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            At least you’re self aware heh

            Nah, I see your point. Just wanted to make a joke, I didn’t even know that it’ll start a whole discussion.

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        As a European, car loving Windows users I don’t think I’m accepted here tbh

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      Having never blocked any of these things… I get a mix of both. Along with the new latest internet drama, a few memes that may or may not apply to me, and some occasional lovely asses and boobs.

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      Welcome to the corporately controlled internet where marketing firms, public relations agencies and communications firms constantly try to manipulate the public discourse.

      If you use filters … you can actually hear and read what people want to talk about.

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        Well, you can definitely narrow it down to what you want to read and talk about. I’m interested in doing that with politics (US), and I’m very far away from any kind of PR or marketing person. People can genuinely want to talk politics, it’s not always a corporate conspiracy.

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          The best kind of marketing is the type you are completely unaware of.

          The world runs on money … money is made by convincing people to give it to you … our modern world is built on convincing people … but people don’t like being convinced … so you have to convince them without letting them know they’ve been convinced.

          It’s not a corporate conspiracy … it’s just business.

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    I’m fine with USA politics, because they got their hands up in everyone’s asses so it affects everyone.

    What bothers me more is American football. Nobody except them even plays this game but it’s all over the news every time there’s a major event. Same for baseball.

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      Over the past few years I’ve become a blocking fiend. Transphobia? Blocked. Misogyny? Blocked. Vaccine conspiracy? Believe or not, blocked. It’s great, I don’t have to deal with terrible people and they don’t have to deal with me.

      I also have the orange guy and the X guy’s names filtered out because I’m done seeing them everywhere.

      If you want American politics off of your dashboard you would probably get a lot of mileage just from filtering out “Biden”, “Trump”, and “Desantis”. Florida/Texas/California could be good too but you’ll block non-political stories.

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          Dude, I’m just tired of listening ramblings about something that doesn’t concern me.

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            The problem is that politics affect nearly every person alive. If you stayed more informed you’d likely know that.

            The attitude that you’d rather check out because you’re not impacted not only indicates a position of privilege, it’s precisely what evil leaders want because it helps them enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else.

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    I can’t wait for Lemmy to get big enough that I can unsub from all the big Lemmies. On Reddit I had a bunch of niche communities that were pretty nice and not political. Now all those spammers I avoided have come here too and the Lemmies aren’t big enough to avoid them yet.

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      The annoying thing is these people never see themselves as the insufferable bores always taking about local politics.

      It’s always really important.

      It’s always that you’re a nazi if you don’t agree.

      It’s just modern born-again Christians, who aren’t knocking on your door, they’re posting in your social Media.

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        Well, when you realize that most of the radical communists on here truly believe that there must be an eternal struggle working towards communism but never actually achieving the goal, it makes sense why they are the way they are.

        Literally had one of them tell me that is beyond unrealistic to expect any state to be able to even implement Socialism to any real degree. Of course, in Marxism a Socialist state must exist before withering away as Communism is fully realized, so they will literally admit that their philosophy is impossible to achieve.

        They fetishize the struggle; they don’t actually want progress, they want to complain.

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          Not to agree with statism, but it sounds like you’re combining the incompatible beliefs of two different people.

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          Why do you find it shocking that someone wants their political goals to be achieved but is also realistic with themselves that they may never see them accomplished?

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      Nice to have this kind of posts here, that way I can easily identify the politically toxic users that will be blocked.

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          There are politically interested persons and there are politically toxic persons. Mainly you can spot them by their vitriol and mockery of people who voice their apolitical leanings.

          The normal politically interested people will react just like a level person, asking why and then letting people have their own views in life be.

          Then there’s the politically toxic ones, where they will argue with those that has different political or apolitical outlook than they do even if there’s nothing to argue about. Those cannot stand this kind of posts. Thus revealing themselves. And I tend to block them.

          I’m not against politics, but for me, I do not endorse the activity of being aggressive to the opposite side of my views.

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        Veganism somehow became politically charged, although not as much as LGBTQ+ who literally get disowned by their own family.

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          Somehow? How would a non politically charged veganism exist? People who just decide to not eat animal products for no reason?

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    On my feed directly above and below this post are two posts from world news and they are both articles about russia.