• @MTK@lemmy.world
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    Me being an arch using vegan with a man-bun makes this feel like a personal attack.

    But once I get my new arch setup working I’ll install gimp on it and create a meme making fun of you!

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      And you’ll finally get your sound working on your new laptop after weeks of messing with pulse audio and realizing you just needed to install sof-firmware but didn’t scroll far enough in the wiki to see that, but now your pulse audio config is so messed up it’s just easier to reinstall Arch again

      Source: my life

      • Kogasa
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        Step 1: install pipewire

        there is no step 2

      • @AeonFelis@lemmy.world
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        Installing sound on Arch is really easy:

        1. Install ALSA
        2. Install Pulse
        3. Spend half an hour trying to get the sound test to work with various parameters
        4. Realize the default sink is set to USB audio and you don’t have a USB audio device
        5. Google how to change the default sink
        6. Change the default sink
    • RBG
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      Check the arch wiki first if installing Gimp is going to bork your system.

    • Jo Miran
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      I’m vegan for health reasons and I have yet to meat one of the infamous vegans the stereotype portrays. I ask questions, look for recipes, etc, and everyone has been super nice. I think “those vegans” live primarily on Twitter and Reddit.

      PS: I’ve had a working Linux system in daily use since I started back with Red Hat Halloween and I prefer Debían based installs like Pop!_OS and Mint D. Nothing against Arch but I ain’t got time to fight the OS as well as my work.

      EDIT: The typo stays.

      • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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        I’ve met one or two. It’s like fine, it’s a major lifestyle change often associated with ethics that sets you aside from most of society. Many folks have a period of a few months to a year or two of being really annoying about shit like that. It happens with all sorts of folks: linux and arch users, freshly out queer people, people getting into polyamory, new converts to religions… frankly atheists and people who just converted to Christianity are the worst about it in my experience. And yeah these people are annoying. You’ve been annoying too I’m sure, we all have, it’s part of being a person and the people being annoying about these things are typically doing so at an age where some variant of that is a common experience

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          I’ve been annoying? I’VE BEEN ANNOYING?!? I take offense of your liberal use of the past tense, Captain.

          I hear ya though. I guess I’ve been lucky in my interactions, but the memes make it seem like it’s constant and ever present with vegans, and that doesn’t match with my experience outside of the Internet.

        • @jacobc436@lemmy.ml
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          Surprisingly sane take, I forget sometimes that not everything on the internet is straight cynicism. Ty.

      • @otp@sh.itjust.works
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        They’re also on Lemmy. I haven’t been here long, but I’ve already seen 2.

        One is right here in another comment chain, lol

      • @Faresh@lemmy.ml
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        18 months ago

        This is very likely my very environmentally influenced view, but I think there was a period of time where being vegan was a trend among the health hipsters, who weren’t vegan due to ethics, but because either everyone else was doing it or because they claim it has massive health benefits like they did for paleo, keto or other diets. Those I think could indeed fit that stereotype. Or maybe I’m living in a fairy tale.

    • @Just_Pizza_Crust@lemmy.world
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      Part of being vegan is understanding you’ll be mocked and criticized for completely unrelated things. Like Bubly sparkling water or blue denim, for example.

  • @MycoBro@lemmy.world
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    I’ll never forget the first time I successfully installed arch and got my I3 set up juuust like I wanted it. It felt like I did something. It was great. Fuck you!

  • @shrugal@lemm.ee
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    No way the Fedora user figured out how to configure partitions in the installer without having to google it at least five times! I’ve installed Fedora a few times over the years, and that UI still makes no sense to me!

    • @mlg@lemmy.world
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      Lol I end up just opening gparted, do my stuff, then go and set the partitions in the installer

    • @root@aussie.zone
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      Lol. I tried to google it too and i still am unable to define a custom home partition for my most recent Nobara install. Gave up and just let it automatically create what it needs.

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      I switched a friend from Ubuntu to Fedora specifically because the partition setup during Fedora install is so good. (It was during a new build)

      • @thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world
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        Yeah for some reason whenever i try and install Ubuntu, the installer only sees the primary NVME drive if one is installed. Haven’t had that issue with any other distro

      • @Faresh@lemmy.ml
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        Huh. I had the complete opposite experience. I found fedora’s manual partitioner to be the worst of any distro I’ve ever used (I had trouble understanding it and it always ended up giving me some weird error when trying to finalize the partitioning step). I think I just ended up ditching fedora’s default manual partition manager.

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      I just let it do partitioning automatically, or do it manually with GNOME Disks.

  • @cpw@lemmy.ca
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    Debian guy could have just downloaded the nonfree installer that includes some common wifi and other hardware firmwares. There are some pragmatists at Debian.

      • @n00b001@lemmy.world
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        Well… Say that to my live USB I tried booting off of a machine with a very modern nVidia card. I had to create a new boot entry to disable nouveau and install nVidia proprietary graphics into a persistent partition.

        I understand nVidia is shit, and doesn’t play nice with others. But my point is - it’s not always that easy. (I thought it would be! I lost many hours, and pulled out lots of hair!)

          • @n00b001@lemmy.world
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            It’s not related to secure boot (I have that disabled) it’s related to nouveu drivers not supporting the 4090 (yet)

    • @_cnt0@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      Not in the good old days. Back in 2000something I built a custom installer image with a backported kernel from testing and some firmware to get debian installed on a new laptop.

    • @Pantherina@feddit.de
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      Agree but Debian is still damn manual compared to many Fedora quality of life improvements.

      Meanwhile, removing snaps and replacing with flatpaks on a set up ubuntu system is crazy! All those loop mounts suddenly start showing up when snapd is gone

  • @404@lemmy.zip
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    I actually encoutered this the other day.

    Me: “Yeah I need reliability for work and sometimes I just don’t have time to repair stuff. Last time I was on rolling release some update fucked my system right before an important deadline”

    Other person: “It wOn’T bReAk If YoU UndErStANd iT”

    ._.

    Anyway stable is awesome

    • @rambaroo@lemmy.world
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      Yep and that’s why I refuse to use rolling distros. I don’t need the latest update of everything to game. Give me a stable system any day instead.

      Debian or openSUSE Leap for me.

      • @Pantherina@feddit.de
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        Arch + BTRFS snapshots might be great. I am trying that out currently, but will probably just stay on Fedora Kinoite

  • @somenonewho@feddit.de
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    I’ll have you know that I eat a vegetarian not vegan diet and I really don’t have a man bun (got no hair for that) … The stickers on the laptop however really felt like you took a photo of my machine.

    Also if it wasn’t obvious I run arch

  • @AVincentInSpace@pawb.social
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    man I knew this was going to be rough when I saw him wearing a vegan shirt but god DAMN

    “All Arch users are stupid vegan crossfitters who never shut up and contribute nothing to society and the only thing they ever care about is making their desktop look l33t and Arch is a horrible distro and did I mention all Arch users are stupid?”

    Oh. My. Sides.

    I switched from Ubuntu to Arch because I was sick of packages not compiling due to a complete lack of dependency management. I use stock KDE with zero frills and I spend most of my time hacking on open source projects. I never tell anyone what OS I use (unless they ask for recommendations for their new machine, and I’m prepared to also tell them why I personally prefer it) because they don’t care. I’m a normal guy who keeps myself to myself and hates the people who think a pretty desktop is more important than a usable system just as much as everyone else.

    However, I use Arch, and Arch bad, which means I must be the most annoying person on the planet.

  • @fl42v@lemmy.ml
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    If that’s a first install, then sure. Otherwise… There was a speedrun installing arch under 2 min…

    • rurutheguru
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      Might just be an old comic. The above was true a few years ago, but not so much anymore.

      • @Sanctus@lemmy.world
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        Yeah now its like archinstall, check some boxes, maybe google some packages to install at setup and you’re done.

        • @shea@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          oof i wish it was that easy. that’s the simple version of what i spent the last 2 weeks doing. On Windows I’d consider myself a power user. I get a lot of work done, quickly, and besides that I would say I’m pretty tech literate over all. But arch is just ridiculously difficult to understand how to use unless you’re already very familiar with linux. I feel like any wrong move i make is gonna break my setup. i got my comptia A+ , which while very basic, definitely goes to show I’m not some random luddite

          • Kogasa
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            What is ridiculously difficult to understand?

          • @Sanctus@lemmy.world
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            I installed Linux mint on a trusty old thinkpad. Used it probably 5 times over the course of a year. Then installed arch on a newer T480s I received from work. I am a complete novice. It is literally that easy. You download the arch installer, follow the wiki on the 2 or 3 commands needed for internet, then type archinstall. Thats it. You literally dont even have to install anything else, especially if you choose desktop instead of minimal like I did. I have no idea what anyone is talking about it being difficult. Its easy.

    • bitwolf
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      How does that work? Do they count user interaction time only by pausing the timer during package downloads?

      Or do you need fast internet to play?

      • @fl42v@lemmy.ml
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        Not that I remember finding any rules, so that’s mostly just messing around; technically you can quickly setup your own mirrors in LAN, although I don’t remember if that was done. Stuff was mostly about knowing what to type and blindly pre-typing next commands while previous are still in action