President Biden’s reelection campaign has placed a large ad buy on the Fox News website ahead of Wednesday night’s first GOP primary debate, using the event to promote abortion rights m…
I’m not sure this is a good idea. Surely this sort of messaging is better aimed at independants / floating voters? You’d think that any republicans who see this are going to go straight into “REEEEE DEMONCRATS SEE WHAT THEY DO THEY KILL BABIES REEEEE” mode and dig deeper into their mindset.
Eh—everyone already knows where Biden stands on abortion. Avoiding the issue suggests that he’s embarrassed or ashamed of his position—it concedes the moral high ground to the Republicans.
Lots of voters prefer a confident candidate to one who agrees with them on everything.
Mmm. Makes sense I guess, you’re saying the intent of these ads is less to appeal to rep voters, but more to show dem voters that Biden is serious about codifying Roe?
I think it’s aimed at swing voters—the kind who voted for both Obama and Trump.
They’re generally lukewarm on the issues, but are attracted to candidates who seem self-assured and confident. The candidates in the debate are likely to be anything but, given their fear of saying anything that might anger Trump’s core voters—so this ad will give viewers an obvious contrast.
Well whatever the intent; I hope it works as intended. We’re having a similar moment here (UK) where we have a reasonable opposition to the godawful conservative party, he’s objectively a better choice yet people on the far left are convinced he’s the devil and go around convincing people not to vote for him. Whereas the reality is, he has to walk a tightrope fighting media bias and can’t be the Ultra Woke Leftie Warrior they want him to be.
Currently polling at 50% vs 25% though, so I have a small sliver of hope that things will change next year.
The ad is designed to keep the abortion issue talked about. Have you noticed how Republicans have gone radio-silent on abortion? They don’t want it brought up. This is a smart move.
Ding. The SCOTUS ruling is wildly unpopular. Republicans literally just took one of their cornerstone issues – abortion – and said, “Nah, we’re done with this,” and handed it to the Democrats to use in elections for several cycles.
“We know we’ve spent decades harping on abortion but you need to stop thinking about it now. Oooh look over there shiny!” That’s why these ads are being run and I agree it’s a good idea. Maybe some additional ads that are like white trailer park looking people talking about how an abortion saved their life or how their baby was stillborn so they had an “abortion” and how traumatic it was and how much more traumatic it would have been to have to carry to term.
They are the dog that caught the car. I remember some maga mom being absolutely enraged when the abortion thing leaked out from the corrupted too-conservative court. My wife asked her…but WHY are you so angry that they are going to overturn Roe? Isn’t that what you want?
This woman screwed up her face and screamed that liberals were going to use it against Republicans. Yeah, no kidding. But it’s what you guys WANTED. For about 50 years. WTAF.
This is the one group that seems perpetually pissed off about everything, all the time, even getting things they wanted and asked for, like tearing up the rights of women, and naming a special counsel for Hunter Biden…who can maintain that level of rage all the time? It cannot be good for your health.
This is the one group that seems perpetually pissed off about everything, all the time, even getting things they wanted and asked for
This is so true! One thing I’ve always loved about American liberal culture (yeah, I know; we’re not really liberal here) is that we laugh at our mistakes. For most of my life, Cable and Late Night comedy shows have been helping us find the humor in the things we would otherwise be enraged about. I feel like it has helped me stay sane all these years. I kind of feel bad for the Fox News-watching conservatives who spend their days oscillating from outrage to fear to outrage again. It must be hell on their cardiovascular health.
The ad isn’t aimed to convert anyone, it’s meant to feed into the social media narrative. Entrenched Republicans aren’t changing their vote, but it could spark interest in younger voters who don’t go to Fox News but read about the campaign.
It’s definitely a good idea. The left has been failing to mock the right for far too long. The only thing that will really stop that movement is if it’s cringey and an embarrassment to be a part of it. It also shows their attacks and strategies as weaks., since dark Brandon started as a rightwing meme.
There are plenty of radical centrists who will watch this shit because they feel obligated to hear out fascists just in case one of them actually manages to form a cogent thought.
These are the goldfish voters. If they do not have their knowledge and beliefs reaffirmed every 27 seconds, they revert to a blank political slate. The GOP has figured it out - these people are the reason why “bumper sticker politics” is so effective. The goldfish phenomenon perfectly explains every paradox and confounding effect in the history of political odds-making - that there is a shockingly large contingent of voters out there whose entire political identity is effectively defined by the most recent political message they attentively received.
I was like 50/50 on voting for Biden before i saw this. Even though this ad is definetly not ideated by Biden (for sure just a campaign manager or a 20 year old intern), standing up for abortion rights front and center on fox will likely make it more so like an 80/20 if I actually like the outcome of it. Will probably be one of the more memorable things from his career for me.
Brilliant, I’m aware that I have resting sarcastic voice even when typing so I mean this genuinely… I’m glad this is having an effect like this on a voter like yourself.
I’m not from USA but feel I have a dog in the fight because what happens over in your country almost always leaks out and affects politics in mine (UK). Conservative party are definitely modelling republican tactics atm.
Please avoid using “reee” as that is incredibly ableist and is right up there with calling something “retarded”. Do better
Aside from that: A lot of households and waiting rooms still play fox news 24/7. So if some magat’s 18 year old kid sees this and realizes why they REALLY need to not tell their parents who they voted for, it is a win. Same with people in waiting rooms who might be so desensitized as to think “turd and a douche sandwich”.
That’s because the origin isn’t “autistic screeching”. It’s the screaming frog. The connection to “autistic screeching” was a later misassociation popularized on Reddit.
I wasn’t talking about you with my comment about jumping down each others throat.
A lot of people have no clue that the origin is “autistic screeching.”
This is just objectively wrong, and thus it’s not likely that this is the reason it means anything.
My only point was that interpretations vary, so getting bent out of shape and acting like your interpretation is the only interpretation is a shittt thing to do.
I’ve always read ‘reeee’ like a pig squeel, which I think fits and doesn’t put down any demographic, except pigs, and they don’t know any better which is why it works.
The response to “you are spewing slurs and being a jerk” is not “How dare you?!? How am I supposed to know everything?” . It is “oh shit, sorry”
And if the difference between someone spewing slurs and acting like an asshole is me coddling them and rubbing their tum tum while asking for them to pwease not use a slur? They are going to be an asshole anyway and are just looking for an excuse to continue being one.
That sounds fantastic, until you realize you’re all there because of your shared delusion that you individually know better and understand more than everyone around you. Then you turn on each other, and then hell is functioning as intended.
Ignoring the whole “being offended for people who likely don’t appreciate someone being offended on their behalf” part, how does one expect to gain acceptance of their ideas by being an absolute dickhead to them?
Even if you have the greatest idea of all time, telling someone to implement it and then calling them a piece of shit leaves people very disinclined to implement anything they’ve said. They’ll be stuck on ‘man that person was a real asshole. Fuck them and whatever bullshit they were talking about’
As for the part we’ve ignored, I honestly thought we were done with that whole thing? That we moved on to actually trying to help people rather than virtual signal about helping? FFS
If you actually want to help people, then have you considered donating to charities for those causes? If you’re low on funds, that’s fine, you can volunteer time to help out. The charity runners would really appreciate it and it would go so much farther than this faux moral outrage tactic.
It means alot more to me when a person who would actually get offended by something asks that people not say said offensive thing (in a personal setting, work is work) than a person who would not get offended.
For instance, I’m a Jew and I ask people not to call me white because I’m Jewish, not white. Seems reasonable a Jew asking people not do to a thing that’s offensive to Jews.
But if I were white and asked people “hey don’t call Jews white” well who the fuck am I to be asking that? I’m not a Jew (impacted person) nor have I identified myself to have any authority in the matter. I’m just a dude doing a thing.
To add to that we have the second problem. How the person went about it. They were an asshole in their request. You don’t win over hearts and minds by being a dick, no matter how much of a dick those hearts and minds were.
Said person decided to double down on being a dick leaving me entirely uninterested in enacting any changes they’ve requested. So from my perspective
the person is virtual signalling which is shown in the article I linked, has historically proven to not have a positive impact.
the person is being an asshole
Why should I care about their opinion?
Yours on the other hand, was in a respectful of upset manner and is coming from an impacted individual. You carry weight and you’ve been respectful in doing so.
I’m hopeful I’ve shown you the same respect in my response.
It’s the “…being a jerk” part that is, initially, unnecessary. If they aren’t informed, there is no intent. If they don’t respond well to the initial raw/basic info, that’s a different conversation.
The incredible irony of calling me out for using a ‘slur’ while every comment they make has the word ‘slut’ above it. Beautiful, thanks for pointing it out.
You’ve confused me. I think you’re confused also, I was the one who made the initial comment that they called out. It’s Bleeping Lobster all the way down. I don’t have an ‘alt account’ (though I have registered on Sopuli.xyz for those brief moments when .world is down)
Telling someone they are using a slur and they should do better is just straight up “fact”. Making mistakes is life. Learning from those mistakes and doing better is how you at least attempt to be a good person.
Again, if your issue that has led you to attempt to tone police me is that I told someone to do better: If they genuinely meant no offense (and the OP has made it clear they give zero shits about offending anyone…) then they say “oh shit, sorry”. Simple as that.
And if the only way to get someone to not use slurs and ableist language is to give them a hug and tell them they are a good person? Then clearly they are okay hurting others because somebody didn’t show them the proper deference. And… fuck 'em. They are bigots and bigots deserve no respect.
And it isn’t about “undoing” what people say (although, this is a message board and there is an edit button…). It is about saying “Shit, sorry” and resolving to do better.
For example: Apologies to all the Romani folk out there (and I think it is also used to refer to irish Travellers sometime?), but I and most kids would use the phrase “jipped” which is based on “gyped” which is short for “gypsies” which is a slur for those groups. Funny enough, a lot of us learned that was not cool from an episode of House MD. And we didn’t need to be told “You are good people and we love you but…” any more than we needed to be told that House is a great guy who is not at all racist even though he is being intentionally inflammatory so that Hot Doctor can pull a tick out a vagina or whatever was going on in that episode. It was “… wait, that is a slur? Oh shit. I better not use that anymore”
Yes. it is a challenge. People should do better. And you know what else is “antagonistic”? Using ableist language to insult large demographics for no apparent reason.
I am not “playing a game” at all. You just seem hellbent on tone policing because apparently the most important thing about confronting someone using ableist language is to make sure THEY feel good.
You fuck up? If it is minor, you take the slap on the wrist and learn from it. Optimally you apologize. That is not the end of the world.
But, much like “he changed his mind. HE IS A FLIP FLOPPER!!!” became the worst sin imaginable, so too has acknowledging fault of any form.
And just because someone is going to think they are clever: I do not acknowledge fault in telling people acting like bigots to do better. Because I want them to do better. And if I am rude to a bigot in the process? Good. Fuck 'em. I intend to make them feel like shit. If I succeed? Even better.
And if they were just acting like a bigot? Then they can learn to do better and this is a heads up that they should check themselves (… before they wreck themselves).
REEEEEEE" is an onomatopoeic expression of intense rage or frustration typically associated with the Angry Pepe character and used by those who frequent the /r9k/ board on 4chan. The expression is often associated with the Autistic Screeching meme, however it is intended to represent the unique croak produced by several species of frogs when agitated.
Just like people are really calling each other “a bundle of sticks” and Pepe The Frog was not coopted by fascists to the point that the creator started a campaign to try to recover their drawing.
You don’t personally get to change the definition for something in your own head and then get mad at everyone else for not going along with your interpretation. That’s not how reality works and all you’re doing in the process is just pissing people off.
I’m autistic, quite partial to an occasional reeeee myself, so I think I’ll keep using it, but I respect that you find it uncomfortable. FWIW I don’t use retarded as an insult these days.
And I am sure every single person who uses the n-word on the internet is actually black.
Do whatever you want. But assume people are going to think you are an asshole because they don’t have a note saying you have the “right” to use this slur.
I genuinely don’t give a shit what you think of me, I have a clinical diagnosis of autism L1 and I’ll speak how I choose. You’re literally telling off someone with autism for mocking autism, to go with your analogy, I bet you actually do go around telling black people not to use the n-word.
To quote you: do better. Find a more constructive use for your time.
And I am a navy seal who is also a jet pilot with twenty five confirmed kills in a jet and I was on the mission to capture Secret Bin Laden.
It doesn’t matter what you are offline. Online? You are a faceless individual. You could be a third each black, mexican, and jewish (just to cover all the fun slurs) and you would be indistinguishable from a 40 year old white guy wearing a pillowcase on his head who does not have the jew/mexican/black card.
So yeah. I probably have told a few black people to not use the n-word when, in a discussion about Michael B Jordan, a bunch of people decided he needed to be called the “hard r” n-word. I have no idea if 420_JustBlazeIt_6969 is a Canadian albino with african ancestry.
But when I see a black person on the street call someone or something the n-word? I think the use is emblematic of societal issues but it is “their word” and they can do whatever the hell they want. And everyone pretty quickly realizes they “have privileges” from a quick glance… which is a huge issue for lighter skin folk but that is a different problem.
Fun story. A good friend of mine since high school is a trans woman who is into other women (I think she prefers a title other than “lesbian” but I can’t for the life of me remember). She has a tendency to use the “bundle of sticks” slur to refer to things. i.e. “That jacket is really f-y” and so forth. She has dealt with more than enough prejudice in her life that she can use it however the hell she wants and she definitely is amused by how uncomfortable it makes a lot of us. But one time, on a subway, she straight up got approached by what felt like The Gay Mafia tearing into her and calling her a bigot. She looked mortified and the rest of us were trying to not burst into laughter. After those two dudes calmed down she explained that she is gay and it was one of those “oh, shit. sorry for overreacting. But probably try to avoid that”. Still fun to remind her of that every couple of weeks.
Conflating someone’s genuine medical diagnosis with claiming you’re a navy seal / false honour is disgusting, you steamrollered in here to have a pop at someone and have just revealed that you yourself are a shithead. You’re so focussed on being right, you’ve forgotten the human behind these ‘faceless individuals’.
Getting an official diagnosis was a lengthy, difficult process in my country. You claim to care about people with autism yet you mock me for speaking about having it. You’re not the kind person you think you are.
Yeah this is the worst kind of example of behavior. A person who is themselves extremely offensive towards others but sees themselves as a beacon of moral superiority. It’s actually borderline dangerous and I feel like more and more people are bevaving like this.
Then I strongly encourage you to find a way to embed your official diagnosis into every single post you make in any form of social media for the rest of your life.
Or… probably don’t since that would be doxxing yourself.
Where did you draw the connection that “reee” has anything to do with autism? Like most things in reality outside of TikTok, It has absolutely nothing to do with autism. Nobody has to change their behavior simply because someone misinterprets something. If it is genuinely punching down, then sure I get it, but this isn’t an example of that. It’s just a screeching angry frog sound meant to depict people overreacting about anything.
I’m not sure this is a good idea. Surely this sort of messaging is better aimed at independants / floating voters? You’d think that any republicans who see this are going to go straight into “REEEEE DEMONCRATS SEE WHAT THEY DO THEY KILL BABIES REEEEE” mode and dig deeper into their mindset.
Eh—everyone already knows where Biden stands on abortion. Avoiding the issue suggests that he’s embarrassed or ashamed of his position—it concedes the moral high ground to the Republicans.
Lots of voters prefer a confident candidate to one who agrees with them on everything.
Mmm. Makes sense I guess, you’re saying the intent of these ads is less to appeal to rep voters, but more to show dem voters that Biden is serious about codifying Roe?
I think it’s aimed at swing voters—the kind who voted for both Obama and Trump.
They’re generally lukewarm on the issues, but are attracted to candidates who seem self-assured and confident. The candidates in the debate are likely to be anything but, given their fear of saying anything that might anger Trump’s core voters—so this ad will give viewers an obvious contrast.
Well whatever the intent; I hope it works as intended. We’re having a similar moment here (UK) where we have a reasonable opposition to the godawful conservative party, he’s objectively a better choice yet people on the far left are convinced he’s the devil and go around convincing people not to vote for him. Whereas the reality is, he has to walk a tightrope fighting media bias and can’t be the Ultra Woke Leftie Warrior they want him to be.
Currently polling at 50% vs 25% though, so I have a small sliver of hope that things will change next year.
The ad is designed to keep the abortion issue talked about. Have you noticed how Republicans have gone radio-silent on abortion? They don’t want it brought up. This is a smart move.
Ding. The SCOTUS ruling is wildly unpopular. Republicans literally just took one of their cornerstone issues – abortion – and said, “Nah, we’re done with this,” and handed it to the Democrats to use in elections for several cycles.
“We know we’ve spent decades harping on abortion but you need to stop thinking about it now. Oooh look over there shiny!” That’s why these ads are being run and I agree it’s a good idea. Maybe some additional ads that are like white trailer park looking people talking about how an abortion saved their life or how their baby was stillborn so they had an “abortion” and how traumatic it was and how much more traumatic it would have been to have to carry to term.
They are the dog that caught the car. I remember some maga mom being absolutely enraged when the abortion thing leaked out from the corrupted too-conservative court. My wife asked her…but WHY are you so angry that they are going to overturn Roe? Isn’t that what you want?
This woman screwed up her face and screamed that liberals were going to use it against Republicans. Yeah, no kidding. But it’s what you guys WANTED. For about 50 years. WTAF.
This is the one group that seems perpetually pissed off about everything, all the time, even getting things they wanted and asked for, like tearing up the rights of women, and naming a special counsel for Hunter Biden…who can maintain that level of rage all the time? It cannot be good for your health.
This is so true! One thing I’ve always loved about American liberal culture (yeah, I know; we’re not really liberal here) is that we laugh at our mistakes. For most of my life, Cable and Late Night comedy shows have been helping us find the humor in the things we would otherwise be enraged about. I feel like it has helped me stay sane all these years. I kind of feel bad for the Fox News-watching conservatives who spend their days oscillating from outrage to fear to outrage again. It must be hell on their cardiovascular health.
The ad isn’t aimed to convert anyone, it’s meant to feed into the social media narrative. Entrenched Republicans aren’t changing their vote, but it could spark interest in younger voters who don’t go to Fox News but read about the campaign.
It’s definitely a good idea. The left has been failing to mock the right for far too long. The only thing that will really stop that movement is if it’s cringey and an embarrassment to be a part of it. It also shows their attacks and strategies as weaks., since dark Brandon started as a rightwing meme.
There are plenty of radical centrists who will watch this shit because they feel obligated to hear out fascists just in case one of them actually manages to form a cogent thought.
These are the goldfish voters. If they do not have their knowledge and beliefs reaffirmed every 27 seconds, they revert to a blank political slate. The GOP has figured it out - these people are the reason why “bumper sticker politics” is so effective. The goldfish phenomenon perfectly explains every paradox and confounding effect in the history of political odds-making - that there is a shockingly large contingent of voters out there whose entire political identity is effectively defined by the most recent political message they attentively received.
I was like 50/50 on voting for Biden before i saw this. Even though this ad is definetly not ideated by Biden (for sure just a campaign manager or a 20 year old intern), standing up for abortion rights front and center on fox will likely make it more so like an 80/20 if I actually like the outcome of it. Will probably be one of the more memorable things from his career for me.
Brilliant, I’m aware that I have resting sarcastic voice even when typing so I mean this genuinely… I’m glad this is having an effect like this on a voter like yourself.
I’m not from USA but feel I have a dog in the fight because what happens over in your country almost always leaks out and affects politics in mine (UK). Conservative party are definitely modelling republican tactics atm.
Yeah, this ad campaign seems rather counter-intuitive if it’s aimed at swaying people.
Do you think for some reason that they don’t already do that pretty much constantly?
Why do you think Fox News would run them otherwise?
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Please avoid using “reee” as that is incredibly ableist and is right up there with calling something “retarded”. Do better
Aside from that: A lot of households and waiting rooms still play fox news 24/7. So if some magat’s 18 year old kid sees this and realizes why they REALLY need to not tell their parents who they voted for, it is a win. Same with people in waiting rooms who might be so desensitized as to think “turd and a douche sandwich”.
Also? Pissing off fascists is always funny.
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That’s because the origin isn’t “autistic screeching”. It’s the screaming frog. The connection to “autistic screeching” was a later misassociation popularized on Reddit.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee
People should be encouraging each other to be better people, but jumping down a randoms throat in self-righteous vigor is fucked up.
Reddit is like Adam… ruins everything
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I wasn’t talking about you with my comment about jumping down each others throat.
This is just objectively wrong, and thus it’s not likely that this is the reason it means anything.
My only point was that interpretations vary, so getting bent out of shape and acting like your interpretation is the only interpretation is a shittt thing to do.
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I’ve always read ‘reeee’ like a pig squeel, which I think fits and doesn’t put down any demographic, except pigs, and they don’t know any better which is why it works.
I can see below that the actual origin is a screaming frog, interesting.
Yeah that puzzle slut is just wrong. It’s making fun of people getting overly angry about something and isn’t punching down at any group whatsoever.
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You can do harm even if unintentional.
The response to “you are spewing slurs and being a jerk” is not “How dare you?!? How am I supposed to know everything?” . It is “oh shit, sorry”
And if the difference between someone spewing slurs and acting like an asshole is me coddling them and rubbing their tum tum while asking for them to pwease not use a slur? They are going to be an asshole anyway and are just looking for an excuse to continue being one.
So your default assumption is they are being assholes therefore you are justified in also being an asshole?
Have you heard of the road to hell? It’s paved with good intentions like your own.
If I end up in the hell full of people who flip off bigots and don’t kindly ask people to stop directing hate speech at people I care about?
That sounds awesome:? Being surrounded by a bunch of folk who know how to party, care about not hurting others, and don’t mind speaking up?
That sounds fantastic, until you realize you’re all there because of your shared delusion that you individually know better and understand more than everyone around you. Then you turn on each other, and then hell is functioning as intended.
Tbh that’s not even the issue I have.
Ignoring the whole “being offended for people who likely don’t appreciate someone being offended on their behalf” part, how does one expect to gain acceptance of their ideas by being an absolute dickhead to them?
Even if you have the greatest idea of all time, telling someone to implement it and then calling them a piece of shit leaves people very disinclined to implement anything they’ve said. They’ll be stuck on ‘man that person was a real asshole. Fuck them and whatever bullshit they were talking about’
As for the part we’ve ignored, I honestly thought we were done with that whole thing? That we moved on to actually trying to help people rather than virtual signal about helping? FFS
Let me ask you, have you actually met anyone differently abled who explicitly asked you “I wish you’d be offended on my behalf to random people?”
I’m kinda doubting you have mostly because the last couple of times I’ve seen virtual signalling like this, the groups involved found it demeaning, insulting and harmful. https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanharmeling/2023/01/16/virtue-signaling-on-race-relations-only-hurts-the-cause/
If you actually want to help people, then have you considered donating to charities for those causes? If you’re low on funds, that’s fine, you can volunteer time to help out. The charity runners would really appreciate it and it would go so much farther than this faux moral outrage tactic.
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It means alot more to me when a person who would actually get offended by something asks that people not say said offensive thing (in a personal setting, work is work) than a person who would not get offended.
For instance, I’m a Jew and I ask people not to call me white because I’m Jewish, not white. Seems reasonable a Jew asking people not do to a thing that’s offensive to Jews.
But if I were white and asked people “hey don’t call Jews white” well who the fuck am I to be asking that? I’m not a Jew (impacted person) nor have I identified myself to have any authority in the matter. I’m just a dude doing a thing.
To add to that we have the second problem. How the person went about it. They were an asshole in their request. You don’t win over hearts and minds by being a dick, no matter how much of a dick those hearts and minds were.
Said person decided to double down on being a dick leaving me entirely uninterested in enacting any changes they’ve requested. So from my perspective
Why should I care about their opinion?
Yours on the other hand, was in a respectful of upset manner and is coming from an impacted individual. You carry weight and you’ve been respectful in doing so.
I’m hopeful I’ve shown you the same respect in my response.
It’s the “…being a jerk” part that is, initially, unnecessary. If they aren’t informed, there is no intent. If they don’t respond well to the initial raw/basic info, that’s a different conversation.
Well said, user Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever
The incredible irony of calling me out for using a ‘slur’ while every comment they make has the word ‘slut’ above it. Beautiful, thanks for pointing it out.
Is this your alt-account?Edit: I think you meant to write “calling them out” instead of “calling me out.”Edit 2: Understood.
You’ve confused me. I think you’re confused also, I was the one who made the initial comment that they called out. It’s Bleeping Lobster all the way down. I don’t have an ‘alt account’ (though I have registered on Sopuli.xyz for those brief moments when .world is down)
I got it now. Sorry. Brainfart. Exactly what you said. “You’re using slurs! How dare you!!” - Sincerely, Puzzle_Sluts.
Except you are incorrect and trying to marginalize people who nobody else was trying to marginalize. :(
You acting like an authority is the issue here.
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Telling someone they are using a slur and they should do better is just straight up “fact”. Making mistakes is life. Learning from those mistakes and doing better is how you at least attempt to be a good person.
Again, if your issue that has led you to attempt to tone police me is that I told someone to do better: If they genuinely meant no offense (and the OP has made it clear they give zero shits about offending anyone…) then they say “oh shit, sorry”. Simple as that.
And if the only way to get someone to not use slurs and ableist language is to give them a hug and tell them they are a good person? Then clearly they are okay hurting others because somebody didn’t show them the proper deference. And… fuck 'em. They are bigots and bigots deserve no respect.
And it isn’t about “undoing” what people say (although, this is a message board and there is an edit button…). It is about saying “Shit, sorry” and resolving to do better.
For example: Apologies to all the Romani folk out there (and I think it is also used to refer to irish Travellers sometime?), but I and most kids would use the phrase “jipped” which is based on “gyped” which is short for “gypsies” which is a slur for those groups. Funny enough, a lot of us learned that was not cool from an episode of House MD. And we didn’t need to be told “You are good people and we love you but…” any more than we needed to be told that House is a great guy who is not at all racist even though he is being intentionally inflammatory so that Hot Doctor can pull a tick out a vagina or whatever was going on in that episode. It was “… wait, that is a slur? Oh shit. I better not use that anymore”
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Yes. it is a challenge. People should do better. And you know what else is “antagonistic”? Using ableist language to insult large demographics for no apparent reason.
I am not “playing a game” at all. You just seem hellbent on tone policing because apparently the most important thing about confronting someone using ableist language is to make sure THEY feel good.
You fuck up? If it is minor, you take the slap on the wrist and learn from it. Optimally you apologize. That is not the end of the world.
But, much like “he changed his mind. HE IS A FLIP FLOPPER!!!” became the worst sin imaginable, so too has acknowledging fault of any form.
And just because someone is going to think they are clever: I do not acknowledge fault in telling people acting like bigots to do better. Because I want them to do better. And if I am rude to a bigot in the process? Good. Fuck 'em. I intend to make them feel like shit. If I succeed? Even better.
And if they were just acting like a bigot? Then they can learn to do better and this is a heads up that they should check themselves (… before they wreck themselves).
Do better? You need to know your memes better.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee
Just like people are really calling each other “a bundle of sticks” and Pepe The Frog was not coopted by fascists to the point that the creator started a campaign to try to recover their drawing.
You don’t personally get to change the definition for something in your own head and then get mad at everyone else for not going along with your interpretation. That’s not how reality works and all you’re doing in the process is just pissing people off.
Gen Z in shambles
While I immediately dismiss anyone saying “ree” this is ridiculous:
I’m autistic, quite partial to an occasional reeeee myself, so I think I’ll keep using it, but I respect that you find it uncomfortable. FWIW I don’t use retarded as an insult these days.
And I am sure every single person who uses the n-word on the internet is actually black.
Do whatever you want. But assume people are going to think you are an asshole because they don’t have a note saying you have the “right” to use this slur.
I genuinely don’t give a shit what you think of me, I have a clinical diagnosis of autism L1 and I’ll speak how I choose. You’re literally telling off someone with autism for mocking autism, to go with your analogy, I bet you actually do go around telling black people not to use the n-word.
To quote you: do better. Find a more constructive use for your time.
And I am a navy seal who is also a jet pilot with twenty five confirmed kills in a jet and I was on the mission to capture Secret Bin Laden.
It doesn’t matter what you are offline. Online? You are a faceless individual. You could be a third each black, mexican, and jewish (just to cover all the fun slurs) and you would be indistinguishable from a 40 year old white guy wearing a pillowcase on his head who does not have the jew/mexican/black card.
So yeah. I probably have told a few black people to not use the n-word when, in a discussion about Michael B Jordan, a bunch of people decided he needed to be called the “hard r” n-word. I have no idea if 420_JustBlazeIt_6969 is a Canadian albino with african ancestry.
But when I see a black person on the street call someone or something the n-word? I think the use is emblematic of societal issues but it is “their word” and they can do whatever the hell they want. And everyone pretty quickly realizes they “have privileges” from a quick glance… which is a huge issue for lighter skin folk but that is a different problem.
Fun story. A good friend of mine since high school is a trans woman who is into other women (I think she prefers a title other than “lesbian” but I can’t for the life of me remember). She has a tendency to use the “bundle of sticks” slur to refer to things. i.e. “That jacket is really f-y” and so forth. She has dealt with more than enough prejudice in her life that she can use it however the hell she wants and she definitely is amused by how uncomfortable it makes a lot of us. But one time, on a subway, she straight up got approached by what felt like The Gay Mafia tearing into her and calling her a bigot. She looked mortified and the rest of us were trying to not burst into laughter. After those two dudes calmed down she explained that she is gay and it was one of those “oh, shit. sorry for overreacting. But probably try to avoid that”. Still fun to remind her of that every couple of weeks.
Conflating someone’s genuine medical diagnosis with claiming you’re a navy seal / false honour is disgusting, you steamrollered in here to have a pop at someone and have just revealed that you yourself are a shithead. You’re so focussed on being right, you’ve forgotten the human behind these ‘faceless individuals’.
Getting an official diagnosis was a lengthy, difficult process in my country. You claim to care about people with autism yet you mock me for speaking about having it. You’re not the kind person you think you are.
Yeah this is the worst kind of example of behavior. A person who is themselves extremely offensive towards others but sees themselves as a beacon of moral superiority. It’s actually borderline dangerous and I feel like more and more people are bevaving like this.
Then I strongly encourage you to find a way to embed your official diagnosis into every single post you make in any form of social media for the rest of your life.
Or… probably don’t since that would be doxxing yourself.
Or you can just not be an asshole that makes assumptions
You’re clearly considered in the wrong here by the majority, take the L and learn something
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Looks like that copy pasta
Where did you draw the connection that “reee” has anything to do with autism? Like most things in reality outside of TikTok, It has absolutely nothing to do with autism. Nobody has to change their behavior simply because someone misinterprets something. If it is genuinely punching down, then sure I get it, but this isn’t an example of that. It’s just a screeching angry frog sound meant to depict people overreacting about anything.
Do yourself a favor and go outside.
Anyone who thinks you’re an asshole for saying “reeeeeee” is themselves an asshole, so fuck em
It’s not a slur you sensitive dipshit