This is a useful technology…for tyrants.
Potential PTSD treatment. I think this is the plot to a movie or book though, where soldiers are taken advantage of.
There was definitely a Black Mirror about it.
Sidenote: It’s weird to me that more people don’t talk about the inevitability of that one with the soldiers with cybernetic HUD implants that, shocking twist later, can make civilians look like monsters to be purged.
On the other hand, why bother when the Boston Dynamics murderbots are probably cheaper?
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Universal Soldier?
I think I read the book you mention! I thought about it recently but could not remember the name
I agree. But I also wouldn’t mind forgetting one or two things. However, I’ve also watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, so I know it ends with me having perpetual dementia-like fever dreams.
It reminds me of that old joke of the 2 scientists studying a fly.
Scientist 1: Fly, fly! Scientist 2: When fly has two wings fly flies 2 feet.
Scientist 1: pulls off one wing and says Fly, Fly! Scientist 2: When fly has 1 wing, fly flies 1 foot
Scientist 1: pulls off the other wing and says, Fly, fly!. Nothing happens Scientist 1 Fly, Fly! Nothing happens Scientist 1 showing frustration> FLY! FLY! Scientist 2: When fly has no wings, fly becomes deaf.
Bad-dum!
I like this. First time hearing it.
That’s good, 'cause the fly can’t.
Whew, hopefully he’ll forget he’s supposed to track me till the end of time
Sorry bucko, it was a decoy snail
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That’s incredible, I was aware of the tileman mode plug in, but this is inspired.
Scientists: No guys seriously what have we done I can’t remember
Oh no, they fried the part of their brain that could tell the difference between snails and humans!
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Snail
But sunshine is bad for snails! Noooooooooo!
Finally! A therapy to make me forget that movie!
Finally I can replay Outer Wilds.
Yes. Good god yes. Was disappointed by the dlc though unfortunately. I want to like it but I just don’t.
But also replay Inscryption
It honestly was too scary for me. I don’t do horror games. The angler fish in the main game was almost too much for me
I can play Omori without having been spoiled!
EXACTLY, I feel the same
Such a great game. I’d also play through Undertale again with this
Since the comments all appear to be juvenile Reddit style jokes, here’s TFA (the frickin article: https://futurism.com/scientists-selectively-erased-memories-in-snails-are-we-next#
Note, I’m not a scientist.
As I suspected it appears they tortured the snails somehow (my guess is electric shock) to create traumatic memories. This has been done with caterpillars I think to see if they retain memories after turning into butterflies and they do, despite basically turning into primordial goop in the cocoon. They do, and it’s tested by seeing if they retain aversions to certain areas of their cages that are electrified.
Then something about enzymes created which associate memory with pain and being able to target them.
Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.
Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.
It’s kinda neat, but I for one do not want to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind become a documentary. I mean I like the movie and all…but.
We can kinda do that. There are therapies that target trauma and recontextualize them. Look up EMDR, it’s really cool stuff.
There is debate about how the therapy works and whether it is more effective than other established treatments.[1][5] The eye movements have been criticized as having no scientific basis.[6] The founder promoted the therapy for the treatment of PTSD, and proponents employed untestable hypotheses to explain negative results in controlled studies.[7] EMDR has been characterized as a pseudoscientific purple hat therapy (i.e., only as effective as its underlying therapeutic methods without any contribution from its distinctive add-ons).[8]
I read about that fifteen years ago and dismissed it as pseudoscience. Wikipedia confirms. Pass (thanks though, don’t mean to be rude)
How is torturing an animal cool?
Because it can lead to treatment for human suffering. He says it in his post
Causing harm to some other group to help your own group has been an excuse used to justify slavery for hundreds of years.
Comparing slaves to animals has been used to justify slavery for hundreds of years.
Yes, so let’s respect everyone’s autonomy. No species should be abused.
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I think the scientists are more worried about why the snail’s head is the size of a human rather than the memory loss…
It’s the long hidden aliens that were driving the latest non-human aircraft
Maybe the snail meme was a CIA guerilla training operation.
Wait, the snails are training the gorillas? We’re through the looking glass here, people!
I want off this goddamn Jefferson airplane!
so aliens are actually just big snails, like the Voth from Star Trek
Interesting
Have you ever entered a room and forgot why you came in?
How about your dreams at night? Or what you had for dinner last month?
I think that memory-deletion is much more common than we think. Like vast invisible whales floating through your living room.
Of course we’d never know it.
Every time I walk into another room.
Well the scientists must be zapping me a lot in that case.
For every memory that you noticed you forgot there are a thousand that you forgot without noticing. I’m guessing here.
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You ever read “there is no anti-memetics division” by qntm?
It’s good science fiction . He explores the subject of memory, deleting memory, etc. They have drugs for erasing memory, drugs for making it so you can’t forget, demons that eat memory, certain kinds of information that resist being remembered… It’s fascinating stuff.
It’s probably at your request, to help you get rid of a horrible / painful memory (comedy skit).
Haha, this skit really feels like it’s 14 years old. First time seeing it, thanks!
Pfft this guy doesn’t know how to see the invisible whales 🙄
Chemtrails are real but the chemicals are usually amnestics
I wonder if a general approach to inducing amnesia would be the best approach.
I think that we always take what we’ve got - what we see, memories - no matter how flimsy, and stitch together a plausible narrative from that.
So the amnesia doesn’t have to be very precise. Our amnesiator could basically be just a brain damage ray
decoy snail
Oh no the real one escaped
Probably a racing snail.
Why is the snail so large?!
It doesn’t remember, sorry.
Exactly the reason they had to fund this project.
Cheaper than the lawsuit.
The scientists first enlarged the snail, but when the snail was too large to make love to his snail wife or hug his snail children without crushing them, he decided to sue. That is until he suddenly got amnesia somehow.
But that means he has a giant snail dick too! Shouldn’t his snail wife be happy?
It’s too big.
It’s not the size of the boat, it’s the motion in the ocean!
So they could use a normal sized eraser, duh.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mollusk
I can give snails brain (ganglia?) damage too, you’re not that special, scientists.
Small
knowknew too much.Is this true?
Yeah, but it’s 5 years old.