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    I’d like to think that when people in the center and on the left look at stories like this they realize how little our differences are compared to the lunatics on the right. I’d love to see liberals and centrisfs finally fall in-line and combine to fight these fascist fucks, but then I wake up and realize it will never happen.

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      the american liberals are mostly conservatives by european standards and the centrists are right wing populists. Then you got the fascists, that are the republican party nowadays.

      Noone of them will see a risk in the rise of fascist violence, until it will be their family that will be murdered.

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        Why don’t people realize we aren’t kidding around? The GOP is being lead by fascists. It’s going to be 10 years from now and people are going to say, “if we only knew!”

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        the american liberals are mostly conservatives by european standards

        Where does this fall on the spectrum by European standards?

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        Conservatives by European standards have nothing in common with liberals in the US unless you are solely talking about, like, Norway.

        Spain, Italy, Hungary, Turkey, Germany, France and more all have Conservative parties that are vastly different from and opposed to American liberals.

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      The centrists are the liberals. The Rep party and most “centrists” are now fascist and fascist-tolerating. There are many people who aren’t outwardly bigoted or authoritarian and only care about a few issues such as abortion (religious people), guns (rural people), or taxes (higher income people). These people will vote on these issues and tolerate any amount of bigotry and fascism as long as they don’t think it will affect them.

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        Bill Clinton Signer of the pro-fascism Telecommunications Act.

        Joe Biden Promoter of expanded militarist police state and private prison industry

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          You literally just slapped “pro-fascist” on the first one with 0 actual evidence

          #2 is a grey point that of course can be argued any which way. (Classic)

          You’d think if this was a strong point you’d have some better examples :)

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            Pro-fascist: eliminated FCC regulation for airwaves to work for the public good and allowed fascist talk shows to buy and control all the stations they could afford…which was all of them.

            Pro-fascist

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              The mental gymnastics lmfao.

              Taking away the ability of the government to control a public option = fascism because people made money off it.

              The word you’re looking for is capitalist pig and I agree with you.

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                Except the stated point was “there needs to be more ‘conservative voices’, so we will allow corporations to buy all the airwaves they can stand.” As they did so they kicked off non-fascist shows or moved them to dead time slots. The reason that Air America doesnt exist is because they were blocked from broadcast access.

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                  What shows?

                  Who wanted more conservative voices? Why is that fascist?

                  Why is (yet again) capitalism being equated directly to fascism.

                  I just think you like saying that word tbh. May I ask what age demographic you’re in by chance?

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                    Late Gen X I saw exactly what hapoened to the mediasphere through legislative action firsthand. I get that most of you are all under 30 and have no idea what the world was like before TikTok but there was a time that rednecks in pickup trucks in rural areas were NOT being told by their radio no stop that Big City Liberals were coming to kill Jesus, eat their babies, destroy America, burn the Constitution, and enslave all white people on black-owned FEMA farms. It took PASSING A LAW to get that ability.

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                    Air America was not allowed access to the airwaves after they were bought up. That’s just fact.

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                  Conservative talk radio predates Clinton by over 2 decades, and is what led to the rise in Trumpism.

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                    But it was softened by the Fairness Doctrine. You are not addressing the issue here, and have responded without investigation.

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          So you have no clue what fascism is on any kind of level then as neither example makes any sense

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      Not only that, but liberals and centrists will staunchly defend the Nazis against you. Free soeech is worth killing you for, as well as removing your human rights

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        I got permabanned from Reddit for saying the only good nazi is a dead nazi.

        This take holds no water

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        Quite a lot of “marxists” here seem to back Russia so Im not sure it us just the liberals backing nazis.

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          i have never encountered a pro-Russian leftist or liberal. I think you may be getting played by bots

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          i have never encountered a pro-Russian leftist or liberal. I think you may be getting played by bots

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          i have never encountered a pro-Russian leftist or liberal. I think you may be getting played by bots