I havent seen any english Articles about this so Im giving you guys the Infos on this way.

Yesterday our conservative Party (CDU) has passed a suggestion for a law about immigration, which is a plan with 5 points, with the help of the liberals (FDP) and the far right facist party (AfD). Prior to this the CDU chancellor candidate Friedrich Merz has announced, that hes willing to pass this with the support of the AfD. This marks an official end to the so called “firewall against the far right”. This law includes, that immigrants who are seeking Asylum are no longer allowed to enter Germany and criminal immigrants who have to leave germany will be detained until they get deported or decide to leave germany by themselves.

The 5 points of the plan are the following:

  • Permament controls at the borders of the German Federal Republic (using the emergency provision of the Schengen Borders Code), de facto ending the free movement of European Citizens;
  • Blocking the access to the country to anyone not possessing adequate documentation (making it near impossible to come and request asylum);
  • Immediate sequestration of anyone required to leave the German soil, ordering the creation of special detention camps to keep up with the induced demand;
  • Request of active participation of the Bundesländer (regions) with information regarding the financing and support to create detention camps;
  • Tightening of the right of residence for offenders and dangerous persons: Offenders and dangerous persons who are obliged to leave the country should remain in an indefinite detention until they return to their home country voluntarily or their deportation can be carried out.

Thanks to @morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de for sharing this.

This law is probably illegal (its against our constitution). On Friday it is likely that more laws will be passed with the support of the AfD. The pro putin party (BSW) has also announced, that they are willing to support the laws.

Edit: it isnt a law that has been passed, but a suggestion. However, since the CDU and the AfD are about to be the two major parties it is likely that it will be turned into a law after the election.

Edit: Theres an English article about it by The Guardian
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  • federal reverse@feddit.orgMEnglish
    502·
    11 hours ago

    So that situation is horrible.

    But I am not happy with the title here [thank you for editing!]:

    Germany is on its way to fa[s]cism

    That’s not a good way to put it imo, because it presages a future that might not and hopefully won’t happen.

    What’s true is that “conservatives” (CDU/CSU) and “libertarians” (FDP) almost unanimously voted for a populist, useless, unhelpful, racist act that goes both against the German constitution and against EU rules. They’re their repeating historic mistakes, building their majority on the votes of right-wing extremists (Afd). And they’re planning to do it again on Friday.

    And it was completely unnecessary too. There’s no rational power reasoning for the act. Besides the content being worse than useless, enacting it this way is hurting rather than helping CDU’s chances, as it drives people either further right (“the Afd were right all along!!”) or further left/center (“I don’t want to vote for a party working with nazis/hurting the constitution”).

    Tl;dr: We are fucked.

    No, we are not yet h*cked. Afd was polling at 22% in the beginning of 2024, and they lost 8 percentage points in a matter of months, because people took to the streets to form some of the largest protests Germany has seen. Yes, they’ve gained again but there’s at least a chance that the party is banned [in the near future].

    If you’re German - go out and protest this week! https://demokrateam.org/ has a list.

  • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.comEnglish
    2·
    7 hours ago

    Just get in a train in Poland and drive across the border… They can’t stop you at the border without stopping the trains, which won’t happen…

    Everyone knows, this is regarding the election…

  • Not_mikey@slrpnk.netEnglish
    1·
    6 hours ago

    How’s the BSW voting on this? I know they’re sort of hopping on the immigrants bashing bandwagon but hope they have the sense not to align with the fascists.

  • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
    45·
    15 hours ago

    To add: today there is the debate and iirc. decision in the parliament, whether to call the constitutional court to investigate whether or not to forbid the fascist party AfD.

    There has been back and forth debates about whether or not to do this, despite strong indications that the AfD is an enemy to the constitution and the rights granted therein.

    Only the federal parliament, the state assembly or the federal government can task the constitutional court to start an investigation. The federal government has so far not done anything to this regard. Also more right wing politicians among the less right wing parties are undermining the effort in the parliament, wanting to block or delay the tasking. The procedure at the court would likely take 3-5 years, which means that a failure now to pass the decision would likely grant the AfD at least one additional federal election after the upcoming election in three weeks.

    If the motion fails, it will be a complete failure of the “democratic” parties, who are basically rolling out the carpet for the fascists at this point.

  • morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    641·
    15 hours ago

    for the sake of precision, what was voted isn’t a law, it’s a decision compelling the government to act on its migration policy.

    But since the Democrat/Green government is on its way out and the current trend would place the conservative and the radical right at the top of the ballots, it might as well be interpreted as such.

    Translation of the text in the picture:

    Would the request be binding?

    No. Requests are not laws. They have little legal force. The Bundestag is merely calling on the Federal Government to take action on the issue of migration. Whether it does so is up to it.

      • morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        3·
        11 hours ago

        Considering the SPD (Social Dmocrat Party) and the Greens are currently in power, and 100% of their representatives in the Bundestag voted against the motion, it’s doubtful they’re going to comply.

        Some representatives weren’t present during the vote, which is sad considering it went 348 for and 344 against, but what can you do.

        • trollercoaster@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          11 hours ago

          Considering how the SPD and Greens have recently allowed the extreme right to set their agenda, I wouldn’t trust them the least.

      • morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        9·
        15 hours ago

        I had the same doubts when I saw the first reports, but this image then cleared things up for me, so I happily share the discovery :) Thank you for posting in English for everyone, it’s important for the European citizen to know what’s going on.

        The request has 5 points:

        • Permament controls at the borders of the German Federal Republic (using the emergency provision of the Schengen Borders Code), de facto ending the free movement of European Citizens;
        • Blocking the access to the country to anyone not possessing adequate documentation (making it near impossible to come and request asylum);
        • Immediate sequestration of anyone required to leave the German soil, ordering the creation of special detention camps to keep up with the induced demand;
        • Request of active participation of the Bundesländer (regions) with information regarding the financing and support to create detention camps;
        • Tightening of the right of residence for offenders and dangerous persons: Offenders and dangerous persons who are obliged to leave the country should remain in an indefinite detention until they return to their home country voluntarily or their deportation can be carried out.

        Source: https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/20/146/2014698.pdf

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      15 hours ago

      offtopic: It’s interesting, when comparing century-old and today’s German formal language, how sentences are now structured more similar to English. I don’t know German (only a bit), just interested in languages. Due to sentence and text structure this picture is much more understandable than something, well, old enough.

  • TommySoda@lemmy.worldEnglish
    45·
    16 hours ago

    I’m in the US and I know I don’t really have a stance on the matter, but I’d hoped we serve as an example to the rest of the world how absolutely fucked it can get. The fact that this kind of stuff can even happen is getting extremely concerning. I’m starting to think that the world we live in where there are no real world consequences for doing awful things as long you’re the one in charge is seriously going to fuck over everyone, regardless of country.

      • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        26·
        15 hours ago

        This, but unironically. All fascist movements in Europe have copied the Trump media sphere, where it doesn’t matter how brazen the lie is, it only matters how confidently you present it and never accept wrongdoing. Similarly, while not as bad as in the US, for Germany at least, we also copied the US Democrats playbook of do-as-little-as-necessary, while the rich get richer and richer, which in turn has driven a majority of the people into poverty, which is one big reason why there is so much anger in society the fascists can capitalize on.

        • dumnezero@piefed.socialEnglish
          7·
          14 hours ago

          Specifically, the conservative/fascist sphere has figured out, via brute testing, how to refine their “narative” stories and marketing of those stories, alongside with how to use social media for it (personalized messaging and astroturfing). They know how to hack the masses or at least the relevant electorate.

        • MrFappy@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          15 hours ago

          How is this same as last time? The last time things were this bad were in fact in Germany in the 1930s & 40s. To my knowledge it hasn’t been as bad as it is now since that point. So tell me how last Trump presidency where all he did was try to pad his wallet is as bad as it is now. Last time he wanted to make himself rich, yet this time he wants to become actual hitler. Don’t get me wrong, I was made physically ill last time, but this is measurably worse because he has support from actual nazis to embolden him, a plan from actual nazis to deify him, and that plan will also make him a king. This is a serious issue, but nothing that has happened in America has been like this before, ever.

  • atro_city@fedia.io
    15·
    14 hours ago

    If Germans once again vote like sheeple, I’m not sure how the rest of Europe will react this time. Maybe it’ll be the same mistake of “nah, they surely won’t be that crazy” until tanks roll into Warsaw and Paris. Who knows.

    But the German population has the chance to stop this at the next elections. They just have to decide that they want to. If not, well, they make their own beds.

    • Melchior@feddit.orgEnglish
      19·
      13 hours ago

      Most of the rest of Europe has similar issues. Poland has had PiS for a long time, France sees Macron working with LePen, Italy is right wing under Meloni, Netherlands have the right wing in party in the government right now and there are plenty more. Germany is pretty much the last large country standing and this looks bad.

      EDIT: Forgot Spain is also doing well. Sorry

    • faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      17·
      14 hours ago

      I’m French, and honestly, I don’t think tanks would roll into Paris like you said. France would 100% go fascist as well…

      • no banana@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        14 hours ago

        I don’t know if France would go fascist, since I’m not french, but one other caveat against tanks rolling into Paris is that France has nukes.

  • trollercoaster@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    20·
    16 hours ago

    Here we go again. Same playbook as last time.

    But with the current global political situation, I doubt there will be any liberation by outside forces.

    • ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      9·
      14 hours ago

      Just a point of note - the liberation by outside forces last time wasn’t done for the benefit of those being exterminated (hell, every single one of the allies had a significant part in either rejecting refugees, or actively doing oppressing and outright exterminating of their own before the war even started), but for the benefit of those countries leaders, and finances.

      So there might be liberation, but it’ll only exist to enable us to return to “normalcy” which is the capitalist status quo that keeps leading to world wars (because they’re that profitable).

  • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
    13·
    15 hours ago

    Let’s see how the election turns out. That’ll verify the level of fucked-ness. Whatever it is. I certainly hope this is going to make some sane conservatives re-think if it’s a good choice to vote for Friedrich Merz. (Who is an asshole anyways, in my opinion. Every time I saw his face on television during the last 10 years or so, he said something bad about migrants, women, economics, energy transition… I don’t think he’s a 100% fascist though. Just an asshole who is fine siding with fascists, as long as it suits him, personally.)

  • c1a5s1c@feddit.orgEnglish
    4·
    12 hours ago

    My theory is that Merz is looking to poach AfD voters, by “aligning” with their biggest point of immigration to strengthen his chancellor candidacy. But I’m also not THAT informed on the current events.

    • cows_are_underrated@feddit.orgOPEnglish
      4·
      12 hours ago

      I guess, that he really wants to work together with them. He regularly uses their talking points and hints into the direction that people have to talk with them. The latest homicide (an immigrant killed a man and a 2 year old) is great for shifting the discourse to the right.