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    This is why used cars are so dang expensive, it seems like automobile quality has been in a free fall since 2008. The end user experience gets worse while the price goes up.

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    This is why you need government. This is why you need regulations.

    Corporations are evil pieces of shit that would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.

    They’d grind you and your entire family into a powder if it made them a few bucks.

    Fuck Jeep and their shitty tin cars.

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      they would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.

      No, they would require you purchase these because their business can’t sell their products without them, but they’d make you pay a subscription for them to keep working, and when you stop paying the subscription, the car stops turning on until you pay your monthly airbag and seatbelt fee.

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      This is why we need government that isn’t in the pocket of corporations.

      We need something like lawmakers having to disclose their tax information annually. If you want to be in office and make millions you should be willing to put your morals on the review table.

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    Roku was experimenting with similar stuff so I refuse to connect my Roku tv to WiFi. Will never update it

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      Ya, they’ve been getting bad press for a while now. Will never own one of those.

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    They really do take 80s and 90s dystopian movies as inspiration. Almost funny how ridiculous unimaginatively evil that are.

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      No, it’s considered distracted stopping. /s

      Same damn diffence in my book, fuck Jeep for that shit!

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    10 hours ago

    “You almost ran over a five year old with your oversized vehicle, thanks for breaking! This segment is brought to you thanks to BetterHelp…”

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      or better yet “You just ran over a single mother while missing her child! this segment brought to you by BetterHelp, you’re gonna need it!”

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      I wonder how hard it would be to make an open source car brain that can be a drop-in replacement for the commercial ones?

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        Hard, even stuff from 10 years ago have proaitary hardware across multiple “brains”.

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    I’ve known several Jeep owners over the last decade and those that weren’t buying it strictly for the ‘Jeep clout’ as an actual vehicle/daily driver had constant issues, while under warranty, and dealt with issues even trying to get said warranty work done. Like that wasn’t enough for me, on top of that I had a mechanic with his own shop that said he’d never touch another Jeep because of how horribly they are designed to work on. Anything from ease of access to work on the engine to bolts stripping out because they were overtorqued during assembly and made with shit metals that would sooner melt than come off in one piece. Now this? Yeah, hope they go bankrupt. This is just as bad as BMW and their ‘pay a subscription for seat warmers’ bullshit.

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      dodge in general did not do well on realiability, Thing is they have neat engineering. So I loved the grand caravan but they killed it to try and get folks to pay toyota prices for their shit and its like no. You vehicles have to be ten grand cheaper so that you amoratize the repair bills.

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        The dodge caravan was my teenage car. I loved it. Big. Ugly. No one wanted to drive with me and that was perfect because they also would have tried smoking in the car and I’d have broken out in hives. I miss you, dodge caravan.

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          Yeah its to bad they got rid of it and they did some things that ruined the pacifica that took its place. For people with limited mobility the seats are the perfect height where you don’t drop into them and you don’t have to climb up into them. Being able to stow all the seats and in more recent time the roof rack is just incredibly useful. Then all the basic minivan things are really great. sliding side doors, the rear window winglet things and then the rear hatch. urge to suddenly go camping just have to back it up to the firepit and you can roast marshmellows in the rain.

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      You know, I’ve got to give their marketing team props for managing to sell a vehicle with the engineering quality of a Saturn to people with more money than sense for a whole ass order of magnitude more than it’s worth. Game recognizes game.

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        Its not marketing it’s that they extend credit to anyone who comes through the door. 550 credit score? No problem sir, here is your $62500 RAM 1500, loaded with options. If you can’t pay $1000/month for a Kia why not splurge and not pay $2000/month for an optioned out truck?

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      Yeah I’ve never heard anything good about jeeps in general. Now they are being run further into the ground by trying to become a luxury brand. At least when it was just a shitty jeep, it was still a somewhat cheap shitty jeep.

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        When I was young, you (supposedly) could still buy WWII-era original Jeeps disassembled and packed into crates in cosmoline. I always wanted one of those but never had any desire to own a modern one.

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    I completely crossed off all GM cars due to lack of CarPlay. I am boycotting Tesla. I don’t trust BMW because they tried to make heated seats a subscription. Now Jeep and Stellantis?

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      Japanese manufacturers are not perfect but seem to be the least interested in doing this kind of anti-consumer nonsense, at least for now. I have been happy with every Mazda I’ve owned in the last decade (3 in total) for what it’s worth.

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        Yup, Toyota has been solid for me. Though admittedly, they’re also one of the worst in regards to data privacy; You should assume that every single thing you do in a Toyota is being recorded and sent back to a Toyota server for ad/tracking purposes.

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            Most cars have a SIM card with a very basic data/phone service. In many jurisdictions, it’s a legal requirement for cars to have a button to call emergency services, so they need phone connectivity for that. It’s also used for software updates, map updates, and of course, data collection.

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              Holy crap I feel old now. Since when? I’m still driving a car without a touch screen, and that’s never going to change.

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        I just wish Mazda had a good EV. Their EVs just aren’t that good at the moment. I leased a BMW iX a few months ago, but my old car (which I still have) is a 2012 Mazda 3. Love the EV experience and I don’t think I’ll buy a gas powered car ever again.

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          Any pure EV from Mazda is actually a rebadged Chinese car but I forget which brand. It’s basically the only way Mazda could sell EVs in China and that’s what they offer to the European market as well. In North America, I know we only have the PHEV variants but no EV only.

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      I’m on year 9 of my 10 year car plan. Current vehicle is supposed to become the kidmobile and I planned on a new one.

      I won’t buy a new car though. If I do replace mine, it will be a used, unconnected car. I am so tired of iPads on wheels.

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        my 2008 BMW is the last without a computer screen and none of that stupid knob and I had to seek it out but it was absolutely worth it. Bonus that I can actually work on the car my self!

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          I think cars peaked ca. 2010. Anything added after that are annoyances or things being taken away.

          If I could get a brand new facelift E90, that would probably be my next car.

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        Toyota Sales here Boy do I have some BMW Heated seat subscription crap to sell you

        (Its not quite as bad as BMW. But one thing that really irks customers is the remote starter is restricted to a subscription service. unless you’re one of the lucky ones who got a vehicle that installed the wrong part/fuses. in which case you can still remote start your car with the fob. its still very finnicky)

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          Yeah that remote start subscription really pissed me off. If i could confirm a way to give them even less data i would.

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        I am still awaiting my first map update to my nav system that has free lifetime map updates, my truck will be 10 this year.

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      This only applies to GM EVs. Friend has a 2025 ICE Chevy which has both AA and CarPlay. Still dumb that the EVs don’t have it though.

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      Mercedes also includes a number of items as a subscription in some countries. Some stuff is app related. Others are things like getting full use of your rear-steering wheels and unlocking extra horsepower.

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      Something to consider…

      Elon may be going down a conservative rabbit hole these days, but this is the sort of thing Tesla would never ever ever do. And things like using the telematic system to sell your location and speed to insurance companies. Never happened on a Tesla. You may not like the guy, but the cars are fucking solid.